# More cases of Tesla "phantom braking" **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** tesla\ **Created:** [June 4, 2022, 1:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/more-cases-of-tesla-phantom-braking/184481 "2022-06-04T13:17:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2022, 1:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/more-cases-of-tesla-phantom-braking/184481/1 "2022-06-04T13:17:41Z")
> **[US has over 750 complaints of Teslas braking for no reason](https://apnews.com/article/technology-politics-health-cd1a51e26baa07678de50cab8ae90ee0)** > > DETROIT (AP) — More than 750 Tesla owners have complained to U.S. safety regulators that cars operating on the automaker's partially automated driving systems have suddenly stopped on roadways for no apparent reason. ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2022, 1:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/more-cases-of-tesla-phantom-braking/184481/2 "2022-06-04T13:25:20Z")
It just does not seem to have an end to the reasons to not buy a Tesla . My number one reason is Elon Goofball Musk . ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2022, 2:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/more-cases-of-tesla-phantom-braking/184481/3 "2022-06-04T14:10:26Z")
I am more concerned about Teslas unintended acceleration than phantom braking! ---
**Author:** ![old\_mopar\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/6bbea6/32.png) [@old\_mopar\_guy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/old_mopar_guy)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/more-cases-of-tesla-phantom-braking/184481/4 "2022-06-04T18:12:37Z")
Musk is simply an example of The Golden Rule. “He who has the Gold, rules”. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2022, 7:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/more-cases-of-tesla-phantom-braking/184481/5 "2022-06-04T19:00:32Z")
I acknowledge that Elon Musk is a genius on many levels That said . . . He is NOT a genius on the social skills level I can’t stand his personality, and if I were buying an EV, it wouldn’t be a Tesla ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2022, 9:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/more-cases-of-tesla-phantom-braking/184481/6 "2022-06-04T21:21:52Z")
State regulators determine whether or not to allow this technology to be used on public roads. Ultimately they are responsible if it makes the roads unsafe. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 12:28am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/more-cases-of-tesla-phantom-braking/184481/7 "2022-06-05T00:28:41Z")
> [@db4690](#): > > I acknowledge that Elon Musk is a genius on many levels > That said . . . > He is NOT a genius on the social skills level A few months ago, Musk opened-up for the first time about what it was like growing up as a person with Asperger’s Syndrome. That type of Autism is frequently tied to genius on certain levels, but it also comes with some serious limitations, including an inability to “read” other people’s emotions, plus **very** poor social skills. I understand the probable reasons for his frequently offensive nature, but–like you–I can’t stand him. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 1:26am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/more-cases-of-tesla-phantom-braking/184481/8 "2022-06-05T01:26:17Z")
I also understand more than a few things about Asperger’s and autism by the way . . . nobody receives an official “Asperger’s” diagnosis these days. For some time now, as per the later DSMs, the diagnosis has been “Autism spectrum disorder” ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 10:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/more-cases-of-tesla-phantom-braking/184481/9 "2022-06-05T22:36:00Z")
> [@db4690](#): > > Asperger’s and autism The mystery novel _The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time_ yields a lot of insight on these subjects. Well-written, enjoyable read. Highly recommended. Good as an audio book too. The title relates to the Sherlock Holmes story where a dog that _didn’t_ bark one night was the most important clue to the case. Tom frequently brought this point up when discussing a caller’s car problem on _Car Talk_; his point was when diagnosing a car problem, when something doesn’t occur, that can be as important a clue as when something does occur. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/more-cases-of-tesla-phantom-braking/184481/10 "2022-06-05T22:54:27Z")
> [@db4690](#): > > if I were buying an EV, it wouldn’t be a Tesla How about a Bolt? Chevy is dropping the base MSRP to less than $26K. I’d like an EV for my next car, but a subcompact hatchback isn’t at all what I want. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 10:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/more-cases-of-tesla-phantom-braking/184481/11 "2022-06-05T22:57:00Z")
Where is the Bolt manufactured? ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 11:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/more-cases-of-tesla-phantom-braking/184481/12 "2022-06-05T23:02:24Z")
Lake Orion, Michigan. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 11:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/more-cases-of-tesla-phantom-braking/184481/13 "2022-06-05T23:12:35Z")
Good, yes, the Bolt is a definite possibility in my book. ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 11:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/more-cases-of-tesla-phantom-braking/184481/14 "2022-06-05T23:22:32Z")
No George the Bolt is not in your book because it has too many nice gadgets. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 2:31am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/more-cases-of-tesla-phantom-braking/184481/15 "2022-06-06T02:31:48Z")
Yeah, I actually read about the Bolt price drop earlier today If anything, I might be interested in buying a Bolt for my mom, as she’s comfortable driving small cars and has been interested in EVs While the lowered price is intriguing, I’m wondering just how much ADP dealers would try to tack on during these crazy times? ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 2:34am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/more-cases-of-tesla-phantom-braking/184481/16 "2022-06-06T02:34:08Z")
I agree The Bolt has automatic climate control, power windows, locks, alloy rims, stability control, TPMS, disc brakes all around . . . and an automatic transmission, which is probably sacrilege for George 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 2:45am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/more-cases-of-tesla-phantom-braking/184481/17 "2022-06-06T02:45:22Z")
> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#): > > the Bolt is a definite possibility in my book. Automatic Emergency Braking is standard equipment on the Bolt. Check with your state regulators… ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 11:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/more-cases-of-tesla-phantom-braking/184481/18 "2022-06-06T23:02:11Z")
> [@db4690](#): > > [The Bolt has] an automatic transmission, which is probably sacrilege for George The Bolt uses a single speed transmission. Hardly an “automatic”. A one speed transmission isn’t a sacrilege, it’s an improvement! I wonder if I can buy a reduced gadget Bolt? Ok, I’ll tell the sale-folks I want a stripper. Hey, the transmission is already a stripper !! … lol … ---
**Author:** ![Marnet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/marnet/32/41_2.png) [@Marnet](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Marnet)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 11:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/more-cases-of-tesla-phantom-braking/184481/19 "2022-06-06T23:14:01Z")
Ah yes, EVs. Wonder how many will be selling in the parts of southern Illinois supplied by Ameren Illinois which is hiking electric rates there by 125% ??? And, no, that is not a typo. The reported electric rate increase there scheduled to take place this summer is one-hundred twenty-five percent. 125% 😳 ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 1:06am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/more-cases-of-tesla-phantom-braking/184481/20 "2022-06-07T01:06:49Z")
High gasoline prices, high electric rates? hmmm … I’m seeing a big improvement in bicycle sales. [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/more-cases-of-tesla-phantom-braking/184481.md?page=2)