# Maps of auto emissions in the USA **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 10, 2019, 2:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/maps-of-auto-emissions-in-the-usa/150437 "2019-10-10T14:20:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RandomTroll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/randomtroll/32/12184_2.png) [@RandomTroll](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RandomTroll)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 2:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/maps-of-auto-emissions-in-the-usa/150437/1 "2019-10-10T14:20:30Z")
> **[The Most Detailed Map of Auto Emissions in America](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/10/10/climate/driving-emissions-map.html)** > > See driving-related emissions in your metro area, road by road. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 2:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/maps-of-auto-emissions-in-the-usa/150437/2 "2019-10-10T14:47:53Z")
If this includes carbon dioxide, and likely it does, time everybody in these areas should stop breathing and defecating immediately. Both contribute heavily to CO2 and methane emissions. No fast walking or biking either! These areas need to clean up their act, immediately! šŸ™Š ---
**Author:** ![common-sense-answer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/common-sense-answer/32/716_2.png) [@common-sense-answer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/common-sense-answer)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 3:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/maps-of-auto-emissions-in-the-usa/150437/3 "2019-10-10T15:20:52Z")
**Troll** , What is your point? You keep taking items from this paper and posting it here with no comment. Do you work for NY Times? I do not want a subscription, thank you. I never get any information from them. _ **CSA** _ šŸŒ“šŸ•¶šŸŒ“ ---
**Author:** ![common-sense-answer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/common-sense-answer/32/716_2.png) [@common-sense-answer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/common-sense-answer)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 3:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/maps-of-auto-emissions-in-the-usa/150437/4 "2019-10-10T15:53:06Z")
**Map of flat tires by zip code in U.S.** [csatimes.com/shucksmytiredonewentflatzips](http://csatimes.com/shucksmytiredonewentflatzips) [![](https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/burst-tire-on-road-260nw-617049203.jpg) ](https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/burst-tire-on-road-260nw-617049203.jpg) _ **CSA** _ šŸŒ“šŸ•¶šŸŒ“ ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 6:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/maps-of-auto-emissions-in-the-usa/150437/6 "2019-10-10T18:57:23Z")
What a completely useless map. CO2 disperses quickly, thereā€™s no health issue about being next to a road. Any issue is with the total volume over a wide area. A useful map might be of health-related emissions, like hydrocarbons, CO, and particulates. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 7:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/maps-of-auto-emissions-in-the-usa/150437/7 "2019-10-10T19:22:07Z")
> [@texases](#): > > What a completely useless map. CO2 disperses quickly, thereā€™s no health issue about being next to a road. Says Who? > **[Who is Most Affected by Outdoor Air Pollution?](https://www.lung.org/clean-air/outdoors/who-is-at-risk)** > > Someone in every family is likely to be at risk from air pollution. > **[Highway Air Pollution and Your Health: Six Things You Need To Know](https://www.lung.org/blog/highway-air-pollution-and-your-health)** > > Labor Day weekend is a prime time for vacations, which means many people will be traveling by car in the coming days. While everyone loves a good road trip, pollution near highways can have serious he > **[Proximity to roads, NO2, other air pollutants and their mixtures](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK361807/)** > > Motor vehicles are a significant source of urban air pollution. Adverse effects on health due to proximity to roads were observed after adjusting for socioeconomic status and after adjusting for noise. Elevated health risks associated with living in... At least where I live there are a minimum of 1000 trees between my property and a paved road. ---
**Author:** ![RandomTroll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/randomtroll/32/12184_2.png) [@RandomTroll](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RandomTroll)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 7:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/maps-of-auto-emissions-in-the-usa/150437/8 "2019-10-10T19:22:36Z")
> [@Mustangman](#): > > If this includes carbon dioxide, Itā€™s an auto emission. > [@Mustangman](#): > > time everybody in these areas should stop breathing and defecating immediately. Both contribute heavily to CO2 and methane emissions. They contribute but not heavily. > [@common\_sense\_answer](#): > > I do not want a subscription, thank you. You can right-click on the link, save it, read the copy. I have no subscription. > [@texases](#): > > CO2 disperses quickly, But persists in the atmosphere, the total concentration inuring to the outcome of every plant and animal. > [@texases](#): > > A useful map might be of health-related emissions, like hydrocarbons, CO, and particulates. Thatā€™s a different thing. This map lets us know what our contribution is. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/maps-of-auto-emissions-in-the-usa/150437/9 "2019-10-10T19:54:35Z")
I dunno, Iā€™m concerned about flats. Iā€™d like to see the correlation though between flats and houses getting new roofs. Guy down the street got new shingles and Iā€™m afraid to drive by there. Looks like Troll though is starting another war. The ole 60ā€™s songs keep coming back to me ā€œand the war rages on . . .ā€. I thought Deblasto was outlawing cars along with the glass buildings though. Maybe hasnā€™t had time yet due to being out of town a lot. Yeah I know, shut up Bing. Your smart alack comments are not welcome but itā€™s raining again so canā€™t get any work done outside. Maybe Iā€™ll go start the snow blower and raise our emissions a little to get a spot on the map. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/maps-of-auto-emissions-in-the-usa/150437/10 "2019-10-10T20:28:38Z")
Those are the exact things I mention in my post. CO2 is not a local pollutant. Those that you posted, and I mentioned, are. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/maps-of-auto-emissions-in-the-usa/150437/11 "2019-10-10T20:37:07Z")
> [@texases](#): > > Those are the exact things I mention in my post. CO2 is not a local pollutant. Those that you posted, and I mentioned, are. You missed the point. Where there are elevated CO2 emissions from cars there are many other more dangerous emissions from cars. CO2 is very easy to measure, thus track. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/maps-of-auto-emissions-in-the-usa/150437/12 "2019-10-10T20:42:54Z")
No where in the article does it mention using these maps as proxies for actual health- damaging pollutants. 100% of the article is about CO2 emissions, something better handled on a regional basis. Whatā€™s worse, no actual measurement of CO2 was done. Itā€™s just an estimate. It has nothing to do with actual CO2 concentrations near these roads: ā€œTo create their database, Boston University researchers used federal traffic data to calculate the number of miles travelled on local segments of each road in the United States and converted those miles to carbon dioxide emissions by estimating how much fuel is consumed by different types of vehicles using those roads.ā€ Hereā€™s a much more meaningful map: ---
**Author:** ![vipergg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/50afbb/32.png) [@vipergg](https://community.cartalk.com/u/vipergg)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/maps-of-auto-emissions-in-the-usa/150437/13 "2019-10-10T20:56:52Z")
What are you Greta thornbergs father ? ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/maps-of-auto-emissions-in-the-usa/150437/14 "2019-10-10T20:58:35Z")
> [@texases](#): > > No where in the article does it mention using these maps as proxies for actual health- damaging pollutants. Are you just being obtuse or you actually didnā€™t read the links? All I can say is WOW. Taken directly from link above. **Areas near high-traffic roadways**** often have much higher levels of pollution than the rest of the community.** A [2010 review](https://www.healtheffects.org/publication/traffic-related-air-pollution-critical-review-literature-emissions-exposure-and-health) estimated 30 to 45 percent of the people in North American cities live or work near enough to a busy road to experience significantly higher levels of pollution. **Air pollution from motor vehicles can harm health in a range of ways. For example, nitrogen oxides worsen asthma and increase risk of infection.** Particulate matter from motor vehicles can also cause asthma attacks, respiratory and cardiovascular harm and even early death. Particulate matter can also lead to lung cancer, and some VOCs are connected to other cancers as well. [See the ā€œTerrible 10ā€ air pollution health risks](http://www.lung.org/about-us/blog/2017/04/air-pollutions-top-10-health-risks.html). ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 9:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/maps-of-auto-emissions-in-the-usa/150437/15 "2019-10-10T21:14:18Z")
Iā€™ve just reread that article linked by the OP, I found none of those passages. Maybe they arenā€™t showing on my phone. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 9:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/maps-of-auto-emissions-in-the-usa/150437/16 "2019-10-10T21:14:54Z")
> [@RandomTroll](#): > > Itā€™s an auto emission. How do you think they tell the difference between auto CO2 and 20 million human created or waste decomposition CO2? They canā€™t descriminate between the sources. And CO2 is considered a pollutant no matter its source. > [@RandomTroll](#): > > They contribute but not heavily. Sources? ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 9:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/maps-of-auto-emissions-in-the-usa/150437/17 "2019-10-10T21:17:40Z")
> [@RandomTroll](#): > > inuring to the outcome of every plant Really? NOX, CO and HC, sure but those levels are a fraction of what they were in the 70s. CO2 is food for plants. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 1:41am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/maps-of-auto-emissions-in-the-usa/150437/18 "2019-10-11T01:41:12Z")
> [@vipergg](#): > > What are you Greta thornbergs father ? And if he were, would that be a problem? The girl probably doesnā€™t much about business, the auto industry, and so forth, but sheā€™s got guts, and wonā€™t be bullied into submission šŸ‘ Iā€™m not disparaging her when I say she doesnā€™t know much about business and so forth, because sheā€™s a teenager, and thereā€™s many guys on this forum who have decades of knowledge which she doesnā€™t ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 2:07am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/maps-of-auto-emissions-in-the-usa/150437/19 "2019-10-11T02:07:10Z")
> [@bing](#): > > correlation though between flats and houses getting new roofs. Flats and roof construction? Well, there is a need for lots of roofing nails šŸ˜‰ @Mustangman ā€¦ From what I read on the internet a human produces around 3 pounds of cO2 per day, a car about 3 pounds per hour. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 12:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/maps-of-auto-emissions-in-the-usa/150437/20 "2019-10-11T12:42:34Z")
> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#): > > From what I read on the internet a human produces around 3 pounds of cO2 per day, a car about 3 pounds per hour. Interesting bit of info. If we just consider NYC, how many cars are on the roads compared to people, including non-driving people, inside the border? Is is 10:1, 100:1? And their waste treatment? Ahh, my comment was tongue-in-cheek anyway. Those that want to tell me how to live rarely walk the talk. Driving a Prius and installing solar panels on their 10,000 SF home doesnā€™t offset their overall carbon footprint. It just makes them feel superior. ---
**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/maps-of-auto-emissions-in-the-usa/150437/21 "2019-10-11T14:40:45Z")
> [@texases](#): > > CO2 is not a local pollutant. Is there no value in identifying the source of a pollutant unless it is a local pollutant? I canā€™t help but notice how everyone went on the attack over an article analyzing ā€œnearly 60 percentā€ of carbon emissions. If youā€™re not interested in reducing your personal carbon emissions, nothing is stopping you from keeping calm and scrolling on. Some of us are interested in it though, and I find it strange that anyone would need to go on the attack the way some of you have. > [@Mustangman](#): > > If this includes carbon dioxide, and likely it does, time everybody in these areas should stop breathing and defecating immediately. Both contribute heavily to CO2 and methane emissions. No fast walking or biking either! These areas need to clean up their act, immediately! Iā€™m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume youā€™re just trolling for fun, and that you understand the absurdity of this argument. > **[Your logical fallacy is black or white](https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white)** > > You presented two alternative states as the only possibilities, when in fact more possibilities exist. [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/maps-of-auto-emissions-in-the-usa/150437.md?page=2)