# Manual car question

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/manual-car-question/95558>\
**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Tags:** mitsubishi, lancer\
**Created:** [September 11, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/manual-car-question/95558 "2016-09-11T19:10:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
**Page:** 3

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**Author:** ![chunkyazian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@chunkyazian](https://community.cartalk.com/u/chunkyazian)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 3:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/manual-car-question/95558/41 "2016-09-19T15:21:48Z")

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I’m talking about downshift to first at around 25 mph, getting ready for a long and steep descend, where first gear can barely keep my downhill speed constant(i when turn on the ac for extra drag from the compressor when there are more than 2 on board) to avoid using those runaway ramps. And I want it done with minimal chance of breaking loose the tires. In this case, double clutching its a safety issue

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**Author:** ![sgtrock21](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/sgtrock21/32/246_2.png) [@sgtrock21](https://community.cartalk.com/u/sgtrock21)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/manual-car-question/95558/42 "2016-09-19T18:35:24Z")

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Thank you. Great story! I learned to double clutch around that age. Of course it was on old war surplus Jeeps. My Dad’s Maserati must have been in the shop. LOL

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**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/manual-car-question/95558/43 "2016-09-19T20:44:24Z")

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My 1980 Dodge Aspen had a non syncro first gear. Weird combo, had a 4 speed floor shift with a bench seat behind a slant 6. Bought it dirt cheap from a new car dealer because no one else wanted it.  
It is less than 50 years old. I was unable to find out when the last non syncro 1st gear car was sold in the us, but know it was less than 50 years ago.

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**Author:** ![sgtrock21](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/sgtrock21/32/246_2.png) [@sgtrock21](https://community.cartalk.com/u/sgtrock21)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/manual-car-question/95558/44 "2016-09-20T19:38:52Z")

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That sounds like my 1976 Plymouth Volare. 4th gear was overdrive and marked OD on the shift knob which was on a factory Hurst shifter. I had no idea first gear was non-syncro. I probably never had a reason to use first gear while moving.

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