# Lug nuts **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** mustang, ford\ **Created:** [August 19, 2010, 2:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lug-nuts/53799 "2010-08-19T14:09:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![skytrooper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@skytrooper](https://community.cartalk.com/u/skytrooper)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 2:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lug-nuts/53799/1 "2010-08-19T14:09:59Z")
I recently saw a 1st gen Ford Mustang '64 1/2 or '65. It was still original and had only four lug nuts per wheel. A fellow gearhead says they NEVER made Mustangs with only four lug nuts until the intro of the Mustang II. Please help me prove him wrong. I say that a select few were made that way because they were made on the Ford Falcon chassis. Thx. ---
**Author:** ![Docnick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Docnick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Docnick)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 3:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lug-nuts/53799/2 "2010-08-19T15:01:59Z")
Quite posible; in the 60s every effort was made to cut cost on the small cars to make them competitive. The Mustang was a re-skinned Ford Falcon, a car which even had the gas tank (an open top pan)directly attached to the trunk floor without a TOP! ---
**Author:** ![Rod-Knox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Rod-Knox](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rod-Knox)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 3:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lug-nuts/53799/3 "2010-08-19T15:12:28Z")
When equipped with a 6 cylinder engine the 4 lug wheels were used. The V-8s had 5 lugs. And the Mustang was very much a Falcon clone. ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lug-nuts/53799/4 "2010-08-19T18:10:03Z")
According to Tirerack they did indeed make 64 Mustangs with 4-lug patterns. ---
**Author:** ![Triedaq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Triedaq](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Triedaq)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 7:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lug-nuts/53799/5 "2010-08-19T19:12:00Z")
Yes, some first generation Mustangs did have only 4 lug nuts per wheel. I had a student who worked for me who had a wheel come off a Mustang, fortunately while she was driving around town. It only had 4 lug nuts. I owned a Ford Maverick Grabber at one time. It only had 4 lug nuts per wheel. ---
**Author:** ![JoeMario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@JoeMario](https://community.cartalk.com/u/JoeMario)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lug-nuts/53799/6 "2010-08-19T19:58:56Z")
I remember changing tires on many Mustangs of that vintage with only four lug nuts. ---
**Author:** ![missileman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/missileman/32/1366_2.png) [@missileman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/missileman)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lug-nuts/53799/7 "2010-08-19T20:09:16Z")
Yes they came with 4 lugs. My cousin has an original 65’ Mustang in his garage with 4 lug wheels. It has a straight 6 engine. It’s currently undergoing a frame-off restoration and he is keeping the wheels original. ---
**Author:** ![Caddyman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/caddyman/32/23_2.png) [@Caddyman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Caddyman)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 2:43am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lug-nuts/53799/8 "2010-08-20T02:43:38Z")
The 6 cylinder cars probably came with 6:50X13 tires mounted on 4-lug wheels…The 6 cylinder models were very different than the V8 powered cars. Brakes, steering, front end parts, rear end parts completely different… ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 2:54am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lug-nuts/53799/9 "2010-08-20T02:54:06Z")
What you need to watch out for are those Mustangs with 4 lug wheels and V8s. Those are conversions that were done on the cheap.