# Lucas Engine Oil Additive 12 Ounce - 11097?

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**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Created:** [January 21, 2025, 8:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lucas-engine-oil-additive-12-ounce-11097/198767 "2025-01-21T20:52:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![sciconf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sciconf](https://community.cartalk.com/u/sciconf)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 8:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lucas-engine-oil-additive-12-ounce-11097/198767/1 "2025-01-21T20:52:57Z")

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Should I use this on my 2009 Corolla with 140k:  
\<[Amazon.com: Lucas Oil 11097 Low Viscosity Stabilizer - 12 Ounce](http://www.amazon.com/Lucas-Oil-Products-11097-Additive/dp/B07PWNJB15/)\>

This car uses fullsyn oil, used Kirkland - after about 5.5k I checked, oil is Goldish but darkish when its concentrated. There was a smell on the oil. So changed it with Valvoline High Mileage. I seems to note smoother engine movement on a 2mile ride home.

Some where I saw this Lucas product. Wondering if I should use this for the next oil change?

I was thinking in the line of @jtsanders in another thread where he stated “T_his led them to extend the change intervals for all vehicles. The only one I remember is the Cavaliers in the fleet. They ended up at 10,000 miles for the change interval instead of the recommended 7500 miles_.” [Sparks, Carbon......100k! - #67 by Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/t/sparks-carbon-100k/198404/67)

**But the smell in the oil - I have no clue what it was. One said oil burning another said fuel seeping through without fully burning**. So went and changed it with High Mileage. Engine has no oil leak. Its VVT engine. Toyo recommends 6months or 5k mile interval. My Volt reminds me about 24months to change the FSyn oil. I am sure these ICE can do 1yr 7.5k or 10k.

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 9:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lucas-engine-oil-additive-12-ounce-11097/198767/2 "2025-01-21T21:09:06Z")

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I wouldn’t extend the oil change interval unless you get an oil analysis if that’s what you have in mind.

Otherwise, you are likely fine with the Kirkland full synthetic as long as you use the Toyota change interval. IIRC Warren makes the oil for Costco.

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**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 9:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lucas-engine-oil-additive-12-ounce-11097/198767/3 "2025-01-21T21:15:44Z")

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> [@sciconf](#):
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> oil is Goldish

That could be an indication that the engine bearings are worn.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/d/d/dd8978a532ea97681b62fdefe415ce4237121c82.jpeg)

Tester

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**Author:** ![cigroller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@cigroller](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cigroller)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 9:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lucas-engine-oil-additive-12-ounce-11097/198767/4 "2025-01-21T21:41:28Z")

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(Certain) Oil additives can only sometimes help limp along an old engine near the end of it’s life (depending on the issue) that isn’t worth fixing. Other than that, just follow manufacturer recommendations.

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**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 9:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lucas-engine-oil-additive-12-ounce-11097/198767/5 "2025-01-21T21:58:13Z")

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@sciconf I seem to have lost count but aren’t you past 20 oil related threads now?

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**Author:** ![pleasedodgevan2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ad7895/32.png) [@pleasedodgevan2](https://community.cartalk.com/u/pleasedodgevan2)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 10:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lucas-engine-oil-additive-12-ounce-11097/198767/6 "2025-01-21T22:16:56Z")

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Using full synthetic means that you don’t have to worry about additives. No, don’t use it. Many brands of oil will smell bad all the time when the engine is drained…

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 10:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lucas-engine-oil-additive-12-ounce-11097/198767/7 "2025-01-21T22:20:40Z")

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I’ve used no oil additives ever, no problems ever.

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**Author:** ![ledhed75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f6c823/32.png) [@ledhed75](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ledhed75)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 11:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lucas-engine-oil-additive-12-ounce-11097/198767/8 "2025-01-21T23:49:13Z")

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What problem are you trying to solve here, exactly? 🧐

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**Author:** ![sciconf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sciconf](https://community.cartalk.com/u/sciconf)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 4:49am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lucas-engine-oil-additive-12-ounce-11097/198767/9 "2025-01-22T04:49:53Z")

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> [@ledhed75](#):
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> What problem are you trying to solve here, exactly?

1. Prolonging engine by ensuring that I am using the right oil. I feel that with high mileage oil, engine is more smoother. Need to drive more to validate.
2. Smell: But the smell in the oil - I have no clue what it was. One said oil burning another said fuel seeping through without fully burning

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**Author:** ![sciconf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sciconf](https://community.cartalk.com/u/sciconf)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 4:51am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lucas-engine-oil-additive-12-ounce-11097/198767/10 "2025-01-22T04:51:22Z")

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> [@Tester](#):
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> That could be an indication that the engine bearings are worn.

Car has plenty of power. Does this rule out? I described as Goldish - it might be the color of the oil when it was new.

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**Author:** ![ledhed75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f6c823/32.png) [@ledhed75](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ledhed75)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 10:33am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lucas-engine-oil-additive-12-ounce-11097/198767/11 "2025-01-22T10:33:18Z")

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I’m decidedly neutral on any kind of fuel additives, and the benefits they offer.

But I’d argue on a 16 year old car with 160K miles…regular oil changes are the best way to prolong the engine life. No additives required.

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**Author:** ![sciconf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sciconf](https://community.cartalk.com/u/sciconf)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 5:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lucas-engine-oil-additive-12-ounce-11097/198767/12 "2025-01-22T17:51:50Z")

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> [@ledhed75](#):
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> But I’d argue on a 16 year old car with 160K miles…regular oil changes are the best way to prolong the engine life. No additives required.

So what does that looks like? Toyoto oil or Mobil 1? 5k or every 6months? Some practical tips please. First time I used High mileage (Full Syn).

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 5:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lucas-engine-oil-additive-12-ounce-11097/198767/13 "2025-01-22T17:59:37Z")

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> [@sciconf](#):
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> what does that looks like? Toyoto oil or Mobil 1?

Any brand whose specs/viscosity match the oil type listed in vehicle mfr’s manual.

> [@sciconf](#):
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> 5k or every 6months?

Six months–or 5k miles– **whichever comes first**!

I know somebody who drove less than 5k miles in 4 years, and he really screwed-up his engine because he insisted (over my protests) that the odometer mileage was more important than the elapsed time factor.

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 6:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lucas-engine-oil-additive-12-ounce-11097/198767/14 "2025-01-22T18:00:09Z")

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Use the correct grade. Synthetic or regular, any brand, all are good, high mileage if it makes you happy. Every 5K or 6 months for regular, 5K or every year for synthetic.

My Avalanche V8 has 155K miles. I use synthetic… not high mile… and change yearly at about 3500 miles.

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**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 6:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lucas-engine-oil-additive-12-ounce-11097/198767/15 "2025-01-22T18:12:38Z")

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How many times does a person have to be told that what is in the owners manual about **xxxx number of miles or x number of months**?

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**Author:** ![sciconf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sciconf](https://community.cartalk.com/u/sciconf)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 7:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lucas-engine-oil-additive-12-ounce-11097/198767/16 "2025-01-22T19:16:47Z")

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> [@Mustangman](#):
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> Use the correct grade. Synthetic or regular, any brand, all are good, high mileage if it makes you happy. Every 5K or 6 months for regular, 5K or every year for synthetic.
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> My Avalanche V8 has 155K miles. I use synthetic… not high mile… and change yearly at about 3500 miles.

I take this as the solution.  
The only reason I went for High Mileage is comments I heard from people about smell - gas leaking into oil…  
But I feel good about going for High Mileage based on short observation.

As u said, for my 3rd gen Integra, I never switched to high mileage even at 1170k.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lucas-engine-oil-additive-12-ounce-11097/198767/17 "2025-01-22T19:44:56Z")

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> [@sciconf](#):
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> The only reason I went for High Mileage is comments I heard from people about smell - gas leaking into oil…

The only real difference with “High Mileage” oil is that it contains special seal conditioners to slow-down leaks from old dried-out seals. If you don’t have any leaks, there is no advantage to that oil.

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**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 8:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lucas-engine-oil-additive-12-ounce-11097/198767/18 "2025-01-22T20:01:21Z")

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> **[High Mileage Oil Vs. Regular Oil: The Ultimate Showdown | Wheelsbyjason.com](https://wheelsbyjason.com/does-high-mileage-oil-really-help/)**
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> As your car accumulates miles, the wear and tear on its engine inevitably increases. To combat this, many drivers turn to high mileage oil, claiming it can

Tester

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 8:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lucas-engine-oil-additive-12-ounce-11097/198767/19 "2025-01-22T20:09:53Z")

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No disrespect to you, @Tester but that article link reads like it was created by AI.

It isn’t so much wrong as it seems to include an awful lot of the sales literature used to promote high mileage oil. The wording is awkward much like I’ve seen from AI.

Anybody have any thoughts about that?

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 9:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/lucas-engine-oil-additive-12-ounce-11097/198767/20 "2025-01-22T21:34:30Z")

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> [@VDCdriver](#):
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> special seal conditioners t

These actually degrade the polymer seals. They cause the seals to swell, and that is the first part in dissolving the polymer. A high mileage engine might not last long enough for this to matter. One of my assignments when working was to evaluate chemical compatibility with the polymers we used. Swelling was one of the test measures.

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