# Looks can be deceiving **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 10, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/looks-can-be-deceiving/190028 "2023-04-10T18:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/looks-can-be-deceiving/190028/1 "2023-04-10T18:36:45Z")
Clearly, King Charles III is not a Luddite! > **[Coronation coach has electric windows and air con](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-65194594)** > > The procession route will be much shorter than the Queen's was, Buckingham Palace reveals. _The Diamond Jubilee State Coach looks traditional, but is actually modern, with **air conditioning, electric windows and up-to-date suspension**._ _“It’s made of aluminium, which is quite unusual, because most of them are made of wood, and it’s also got **hydraulic suspension** , meaning that the ride is incredibly comfortable,” says Sally Goodsir, curator at the Royal Collection Trust._ ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 6:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/looks-can-be-deceiving/190028/2 "2023-04-10T18:53:13Z")
We wouldn’t want excessive vibration to upset the Royal Ears, now would we? Not sure why the air-con, I didn’t think Royals sweated… it just _isn’t done_, old chap! ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/looks-can-be-deceiving/190028/3 "2023-04-10T19:43:27Z")
A true hybrid. Horse and battery. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 8:03pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/looks-can-be-deceiving/190028/4 "2023-04-10T20:03:32Z")
Why should the coronation coach be a royal PITA? ---
**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 8:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/looks-can-be-deceiving/190028/5 "2023-04-10T20:15:27Z")
> [@Mustangman](#): > > Not sure why the air-con, I didn’t think Royals sweated Especially for the locale where that carriage is used. It never gets warm enough for A/C there. I suppose on a sunny day it might get a little stuffy in there, but certainly not warm enough that lowering those electric windows wouldn’t make it comfortable. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 9:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/looks-can-be-deceiving/190028/6 "2023-04-10T21:00:47Z")
> [@asemaster](#): > > It never gets warm enough for A/C there That’s what I thought, until a visit to an un-airconditioned London hotel during a heat wave made for extremely uncomfortable nights. > [@asemaster](#): > > certainly not warm enough that lowering those electric windows wouldn’t make it comfortable. I strongly suspect that those windows–as well as the aluminum body of the coach–are bullet-proof, or as nearly bullet-proof as possible. I really doubt that MI-5 would allow the monarch to ride in a carriage or car that wasn’t bullet-proof. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 9:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/looks-can-be-deceiving/190028/7 "2023-04-10T21:41:46Z")
> [@asemaster](#): > > It never gets warm enough for A/C there. Bright sun, an enclosed coach, and all the formal clothing they will wear might make the AC a welcome addition. The coach builder also has to plan for any eventuality. Temperatures in Europe can be quite high even though on average it might seem that AC isn’t necessary. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 11:45pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/looks-can-be-deceiving/190028/8 "2023-04-10T23:45:02Z")
> [@VDCdriver](#): > > the aluminum body Here, here old chap, it’s an aluminium body, aluminum is only for the colonies … lol … ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 3:08pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/looks-can-be-deceiving/190028/9 "2023-04-11T15:08:44Z")
> [@asemaster](#): > > It never gets warm enough for A/C there. Every time that I return to Europe, I see more and more of these “split” A/C systems on older buildings. Window units aren’t sized for most of the older windows there, and it seems that these split systems are becoming the norm in many areas. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/f/8/f8d6c0dc3c70bd0c657e64e112205ca2d05af474.jpeg) Obviously, they are much more common in the Southern part of the continent, but even in The UK, A/C is becoming much more common-place.