# Long crank problem when cold. Once it started no problem even 2 hours later **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Created:** [February 13, 2019, 2:18am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/long-crank-problem-when-cold-once-it-started-no-problem-even-2-hours-later/134517 "2019-02-13T02:18:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Adalberto\_Vasquez-Fuerte\_Garcia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/adalberto_vasquez-fuerte_garcia/32/14953_2.png) [@Adalberto\_Vasquez-Fuerte\_Garcia](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Adalberto_Vasquez-Fuerte_Garcia)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 2:18am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/long-crank-problem-when-cold-once-it-started-no-problem-even-2-hours-later/134517/1 "2019-02-13T02:18:15Z")
Hi everybody. I’ve been struggling a lot lately. I have a gaz vw golf 2003 2.0 I bought it a month ago. The car wont start in the morning if it’s too cold. But if it’s not that cold like -5° the car start after 10 or 20 long cranking and immediately stall after, it will also stall when when I press the gas pedal. After that it will start easily and I will be fine for the day. It will start like a normal car all day long. The problem is when I don’t start it for a long period of time, like overnight or after more than 4 hours its gonna be the same. The battery and the starter has been changed. I thought It was the mass air flow i changed it. These are all the things i changed. Fuel pump, fuel filter,i scanned the car there was codes for rpm sansor, camshaft position sensor, maf, misfires in all cylinder and open circuit for o2 sensors. I know the car has no catalyctic and o2 sensors are disconnected. When I changed the camshaft position sensor, all the codes disappeared and I only have the o2’s sensor codes now. Pardon my English I’m from Montreal… ---
**Author:** ![Adalberto\_Vasquez-Fuerte\_Garcia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/adalberto_vasquez-fuerte_garcia/32/14953_2.png) [@Adalberto\_Vasquez-Fuerte\_Garcia](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Adalberto_Vasquez-Fuerte_Garcia)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 2:18am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/long-crank-problem-when-cold-once-it-started-no-problem-even-2-hours-later/134517/2 "2019-02-13T02:18:51Z")
These are the codes. ---
**Author:** ![Adalberto\_Vasquez-Fuerte\_Garcia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/adalberto_vasquez-fuerte_garcia/32/14953_2.png) [@Adalberto\_Vasquez-Fuerte\_Garcia](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Adalberto_Vasquez-Fuerte_Garcia)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 2:19am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/long-crank-problem-when-cold-once-it-started-no-problem-even-2-hours-later/134517/3 "2019-02-13T02:19:29Z")
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**Author:** ![Adalberto\_Vasquez-Fuerte\_Garcia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/adalberto_vasquez-fuerte_garcia/32/14953_2.png) [@Adalberto\_Vasquez-Fuerte\_Garcia](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Adalberto_Vasquez-Fuerte_Garcia)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 2:20am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/long-crank-problem-when-cold-once-it-started-no-problem-even-2-hours-later/134517/4 "2019-02-13T02:20:18Z")
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**Author:** ![Adalberto\_Vasquez-Fuerte\_Garcia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/adalberto_vasquez-fuerte_garcia/32/14953_2.png) [@Adalberto\_Vasquez-Fuerte\_Garcia](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Adalberto_Vasquez-Fuerte_Garcia)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 2:21am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/long-crank-problem-when-cold-once-it-started-no-problem-even-2-hours-later/134517/5 "2019-02-13T02:21:01Z")
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**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 2:23am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/long-crank-problem-when-cold-once-it-started-no-problem-even-2-hours-later/134517/6 "2019-02-13T02:23:16Z")
The next time the engine doesn’t start, turn the ignition switch on so the dash lights come on for two seconds, and then turn the ignition switch off. Repeat this a half dozen times and then try starting the engine. If the engine starts right up, there’s a problem with the anti drain-back valve on the fuel pump. Tester ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 2:29am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/long-crank-problem-when-cold-once-it-started-no-problem-even-2-hours-later/134517/7 "2019-02-13T02:29:30Z")
Given all those codes… I’d guess the ECU needs replacing. That’s just too many problems for one car. I am surprised it runs at all. ---
**Author:** ![Adalberto\_Vasquez-Fuerte\_Garcia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/adalberto_vasquez-fuerte_garcia/32/14953_2.png) [@Adalberto\_Vasquez-Fuerte\_Garcia](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Adalberto_Vasquez-Fuerte_Garcia)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 3:25am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/long-crank-problem-when-cold-once-it-started-no-problem-even-2-hours-later/134517/8 "2019-02-13T03:25:03Z")
When I changed the camshaft the codes disappeared. Except the o2 sensor. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 3:34am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/long-crank-problem-when-cold-once-it-started-no-problem-even-2-hours-later/134517/9 "2019-02-13T03:34:34Z")
A bad engine temp sensor can also cause extended cranking when cold if it is misjudging what the engine temperature is to set the fuel ratio. There should be a reading on your diagnostic computer to tell what temp the sensor sees and you can compare that to ambiant. Also a leaky fuel injector can cause an extended crank. ---
**Author:** ![Adalberto\_Vasquez-Fuerte\_Garcia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/adalberto_vasquez-fuerte_garcia/32/14953_2.png) [@Adalberto\_Vasquez-Fuerte\_Garcia](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Adalberto_Vasquez-Fuerte_Garcia)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 3:34am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/long-crank-problem-when-cold-once-it-started-no-problem-even-2-hours-later/134517/10 "2019-02-13T03:34:51Z")
I already tried it I dont thing it’s a fuel problem. This morning I even disconnected the fuel connector beside the engine to see if it would splash and when I turned the ignition on It did splash ---
**Author:** ![Adalberto\_Vasquez-Fuerte\_Garcia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/adalberto_vasquez-fuerte_garcia/32/14953_2.png) [@Adalberto\_Vasquez-Fuerte\_Garcia](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Adalberto_Vasquez-Fuerte_Garcia)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 3:38am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/long-crank-problem-when-cold-once-it-started-no-problem-even-2-hours-later/134517/11 "2019-02-13T03:38:39Z")
The temperature sensor problem disappeared when I repaired the camshaft. My last supposition was the injectors or the ignition coil ---
**Author:** ![Adalberto\_Vasquez-Fuerte\_Garcia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/adalberto_vasquez-fuerte_garcia/32/14953_2.png) [@Adalberto\_Vasquez-Fuerte\_Garcia](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Adalberto_Vasquez-Fuerte_Garcia)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 3:40am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/long-crank-problem-when-cold-once-it-started-no-problem-even-2-hours-later/134517/12 "2019-02-13T03:40:42Z")
Is it possible to take a ecu from an other golf at the scrap and put it on mine? ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 3:59am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/long-crank-problem-when-cold-once-it-started-no-problem-even-2-hours-later/134517/13 "2019-02-13T03:59:21Z")
> [@Adalberto\_Vasquez-Fuerte\_Garcia](#): > > When I changed the camshaft the codes disappeared. Except the o2 sensor. So which diagnostic codes do you currently have coincident w/the long-crank problem you are asking about.