# Last cars with certain features- updated to add text

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/last-cars-with-certain-features-updated-to-add-text/193829>\
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**Created:** [November 13, 2023, 11:52am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/last-cars-with-certain-features-updated-to-add-text/193829 "2023-11-13T11:52:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![eddo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/eddo/32/2594_2.png) [@eddo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/eddo)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 11:52am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/last-cars-with-certain-features-updated-to-add-text/193829/1 "2023-11-13T11:52:17Z")

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Interesting video naming the last cars to come with certain features.

Wanna know the last car with vent windows? The last one with chrome bumpers?  
How about the last one that came with a hand crank starter?

[Last cars with certain features- from facebook](https://www.facebook.com/reel/350845887510612?fs=e&mibextid=0NULKw&fs=e&s=TIeQ9V)

(It is a Facebook link)

the list from the video:  
Last car with carburetor: 1994 Isuzu Pickup  
Last car with front bench seats: 2013 Chevy Impala  
Last car with hand crank starter: 1998 Lata Niva  
Last car with a cassette player: 2010 Lexus SC 430  
Last car with pop up headlights: 2004 Chevy Corvette & 2004 Lotus Espirit  
Last car with vinyl roof: 1996 Cadillac Fleetwood  
Last car with vent windows: 1996 Ford F150 & 1996 Ford Bronco  
Last car with drum brakes up front: 1995 Jeep DJ-5M  
Last car to feature fender skirts: 2006 Honda Insight  
Last car with chrome bumpers: 1991 Ford Crown Vic

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 8:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/last-cars-with-certain-features-updated-to-add-text/193829/2 "2023-11-13T20:17:09Z")

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> [@eddo](#):
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> How about the last one that came with a hand crank starter?

That’s the one I’m amazed at. My guess was off by about 80 years.

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 8:32pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/last-cars-with-certain-features-updated-to-add-text/193829/3 "2023-11-13T20:32:17Z")

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I was thinking the last hand crank would be British, the MG-A and TR3 had them, last made in '62. And the TR4 had the opening for a crank, last made in '65.

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**Author:** ![RandomTroll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/randomtroll/32/12184_2.png) [@RandomTroll](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RandomTroll)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 9:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/last-cars-with-certain-features-updated-to-add-text/193829/4 "2023-11-13T21:40:57Z")

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Didn’t VW beetles have cranks? The ones my friends had in the '60s did.

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**Author:** ![wolyrobb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wolyrobb/32/45497_2.png) [@wolyrobb](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wolyrobb)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 3:09am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/last-cars-with-certain-features-updated-to-add-text/193829/5 "2023-11-14T03:09:58Z")

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The Lada has been produced for a long time with only more recent updates, Some of these I remembered but a few were a suprise.

Motor trend slideshow with many of the same but also a couple lasts not mentioned in the video  
[The Last Cars With Cassette Decks, Carbs, Bench Seats, and More (motortrend.com)](https://www.motortrend.com/features/last-cars-cassette-decks-carbs-bench-seats/)

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**Author:** ![bcohen2010](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@bcohen2010](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bcohen2010)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 3:18am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/last-cars-with-certain-features-updated-to-add-text/193829/6 "2023-11-14T03:18:30Z")

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I clicked on the link, what a mistake…it’s a video, rather than a list, or an article. I noped out real fast.

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 3:42am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/last-cars-with-certain-features-updated-to-add-text/193829/7 "2023-11-14T03:42:50Z")

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> [@RandomTroll](#):
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> Didn’t VW beetles have cranks? The ones my friends had in the '60s did.

One site said '49 Beetle was last Type 1, '57 Vanagon or so.

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 3:57am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/last-cars-with-certain-features-updated-to-add-text/193829/8 "2023-11-14T03:57:07Z")

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> [@RandomTroll](#):
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> Didn’t VW beetles have cranks? The ones my friends had in the '60s did.

You mean like this… 😄

![VW Windup](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/9/6/96055520abba91fab0cc0415cc7b5ed78b9ab572.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 2:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/last-cars-with-certain-features-updated-to-add-text/193829/9 "2023-11-14T14:39:43Z")

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> [@RandomTroll](#):
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> Didn’t VW beetles have cranks? The ones my friends had in the '60s did.

Yes they all had crankshafts to my limited knowledge…

I was about to say that all piston driven engines had crankshafts but then I found this… 🤦‍♂️ 😁

[Free-piston engine - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-piston_engine#:~:text=A%20free%2Dpiston%20engine%20is,a%20gas%20compressor%20or%20a)

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**Author:** ![LoudThunder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/loudthunder/32/27769_2.png) [@LoudThunder](https://community.cartalk.com/u/LoudThunder)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 5:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/last-cars-with-certain-features-updated-to-add-text/193829/10 "2023-11-14T17:09:41Z")

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> [@MikeInNH](#):
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> hat’s the one I’m amazed at. My guess was off by about 80 years.

When I was stationed in Italy, 1978-1981, I had 1974 Renault 12 TL, it was a European model, and I knew it did not meet US Specs for an import. The Scissor Jack handle was shaped like a “Speed Wrench” and the tip had a pin going straight through the tip. The Front bumper, just above the front license plate, had an opening for this tip, inserting the jack handle allowed the tip to engage the ratchet lugs on the Harmonic Balancer. When I picked up new personnel at the airport, I often would make sure they knew they “were not in Kansas anymore…” and when we got to my Renault, I would start it up with the crank… just for laughs…

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**Author:** ![eddo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/eddo/32/2594_2.png) [@eddo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/eddo)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 8:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/last-cars-with-certain-features-updated-to-add-text/193829/11 "2023-11-15T20:41:09Z")

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> [@bcohen2010](#):
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> I clicked on the link, what a mistake…it’s a video, rather than a list, or an article. I noped out real fast.

edited the original post to type out the info in the video. 🙂

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 8:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/last-cars-with-certain-features-updated-to-add-text/193829/12 "2023-11-15T20:50:09Z")

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I think it was a good idea to eliminate the carburetor, front bench seats, cassette player, pop up headlights, vinyl roof, drum brakes up front, & fender skirts … but I’m still fond of chrome bumpers & a hand crank starter option.

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**Author:** ![eddo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/eddo/32/2594_2.png) [@eddo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/eddo)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 8:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/last-cars-with-certain-features-updated-to-add-text/193829/13 "2023-11-15T20:55:56Z")

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pop up headlights sure do make the front of a car look good when they are down. But up? Or worse, if one is stuck in the up position? yeech, lol

My mom had an 87, a 89, and a 91 Firebird. Sleek looking cars when all went well.

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**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 8:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/last-cars-with-certain-features-updated-to-add-text/193829/14 "2023-11-15T20:57:00Z")

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The 1991 Chrysler New Yorker, Fifth Avenue and Imperial also had chrome bumpers. That was probably the last year steel bumpers were allowed on passenger cars as pedestrian protection measures were required later.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/c/8/c830c128bdf4c57bf9da41a2aa114303310ffe03.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 9:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/last-cars-with-certain-features-updated-to-add-text/193829/15 "2023-11-15T21:01:18Z")

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> [@eddo](#):
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> pop up headlights sure do make the front of a car look good when they are down. But up? Or worse, if one is stuck in the up position? yeech, lol

When I bought my '71 Charger, the first thing that I did as soon as I got home from the dealership was to unplug the motor that powered the headlight “doors” (I did it while the lights were turned on). Rather than having to repair that mechanism somewhere down the road, I opted to have my headlights exposed all the time. Before I sold it, I re-connected the motor because–inexplicably–most people seemed to like that silly feature.

That car also had the so-called “hidden windshield wipers”, which supposedly made them less-prone to freezing-up in the winter. (It **didn’t** , and it was actually difficult to free-up the wipers when it snowed overnight) Thankfully, after a few years, the US car companies forgot about this feature which never had any valid reason for existing… other than that it made the car look a bit sleeker.

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**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/last-cars-with-certain-features-updated-to-add-text/193829/16 "2023-11-15T21:09:30Z")

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> [@VDCdriver](#):
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> When I bought my '71 Charger, the first thing that I did as soon as I got home from the dealership was to unplug the motor that powered the headlight “doors”

S.E. models had hidden headlights, base models were less attractive.

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/b/3/b308d0bb12802b7b8ebec39ebc8c49520f2dc652.jpeg)

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/0/6/064a45f571a8c8186b089d931e66ebaa94193947.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 9:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/last-cars-with-certain-features-updated-to-add-text/193829/17 "2023-11-15T21:40:30Z")

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I had an SE model, in that exact color, with the “canopy” vinyl roof. At the time, I thought that it was a very nice-looking car, but I just didn’t like the hidden headlight concept. So, even if keeping the headlight doors open made it look like the cheaper base model, I preferred not using that silly hidden headlight feature.

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/last-cars-with-certain-features-updated-to-add-text/193829/18 "2023-11-15T21:42:10Z")

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> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#):
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> a hand crank starter option.

The electric starter was developed because the president of Cadillac’s friend died from an injury trying to start a Cadillac. Henry Leland, that president, did not think anyone should risk their life to hand crank a car to start it.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 9:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/last-cars-with-certain-features-updated-to-add-text/193829/19 "2023-11-15T21:46:18Z")

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A long-ago neighbor had a Porsche 924 with pop up headlights. A ways away, I doubt I’d had ever met him except for all the times he needed me to figure out why his headlights didn’t work . I was happy to help, but the problem is once he discovered I could (at least temporarily) fix the headlights it was “Katy, bar the door”! Next he had me up on his roof figuring out why his tv antenna wasn’t picking up the stations he wanted … lol …

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 9:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/last-cars-with-certain-features-updated-to-add-text/193829/20 "2023-11-15T21:49:03Z")

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> [@Mustangman](#):
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> [car manufactures don’t] think anyone should risk their life to hand crank a car to start it.

There’s definitely some danger involved, but for a smaller engines like for a Corolla/Civic, I’d like to have that as a backup in the event the starter motor fails and strands me. Being stranded is also somewhat dangerous.

No need to worry about this being reintroduced, it would be difficult to find anyone else who’d want that option.

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