# Large Stop Signs confuse Tesla's "Full Self-Driving" Technology **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** tesla\ **Created:** [August 29, 2022, 12:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/large-stop-signs-confuse-teslas-full-self-driving-technology/186094 "2022-08-29T12:46:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 12:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/large-stop-signs-confuse-teslas-full-self-driving-technology/186094/1 "2022-08-29T12:46:39Z")
In addition to NOT always stopping for pedestrians, now there are complaints that Tesla’s “Full Self-Driving” tech will stop the car very far from a stop sign if the sign is larger than usual. > **[Teslas Can Be Tricked Into Stopping Too Early by Bigger Stop Signs](https://www.thedrive.com/news/teslas-can-be-tricked-into-stopping-too-early-by-bigger-stop-signs?utm_campaign=trueanthem_AI&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_term=thedrive&fbclid=IwAR3S4E6FUt8UFtTyXvP8xPrMQ2vZnJ4T3ATvoDWXS4K386e3Mqe1rLqoso8)** > > Tesla owners are saying that the size of stop signs affect where their vehicles are stopping at an intersection. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 1:04pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/large-stop-signs-confuse-teslas-full-self-driving-technology/186094/2 "2022-08-29T13:04:44Z")
No vehicle has been approved for “Full Self-Driving”. Tesla is pushing the envelope at the risk of peoples lives. ---
**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 4:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/large-stop-signs-confuse-teslas-full-self-driving-technology/186094/3 "2022-08-29T16:16:56Z")
> [@VDCdriver](#): > > In addition to NOT always stopping for pedestrians, now there are complaints that Tesla’s “Full Self-Driving” tech will stop the car very far from a stop sign if the sign is larger than usual. Maybe people should start wearing stop signs? I foresee a new fashion trend. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 4:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/large-stop-signs-confuse-teslas-full-self-driving-technology/186094/4 "2022-08-29T16:23:54Z")
I think there was a billboard with a stop sign on it that was causing Teslas to stop on the road. [Billboard Confuses Tesla Autopilot Reminds Why AVs Aren’t Ready (jalopnik.com)](https://jalopnik.com/this-billboard-that-confuses-tesla-autopilot-is-a-good-1846698527#:~:text=Autonomous%20driving%20is%20an%20incredibly%20difficult%20problem%2C%20and,mistake%20that%2C%20significantly%2C%20almost%20no%20human%20would%20make.) ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 9:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/large-stop-signs-confuse-teslas-full-self-driving-technology/186094/5 "2022-08-29T21:07:21Z")
Maybe the software (i.e. the programmers) assuming stop signs are all the same size, and using that to figure how far the car is away from the stop sign. Something big and far away looks similar to something small and close. Folks who claim to see UFO’s probably get confused by this. (Weekend tv has a lot of UFO shows in my area, hard to resist … lol …) ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 10:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/large-stop-signs-confuse-teslas-full-self-driving-technology/186094/6 "2022-08-29T22:25:40Z")
> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#): > > Maybe the software (i.e. the programmers) assuming stop signs are all the same size, and using that to figure how far the car is away from the stop sign Yes, but that certainly doesn’t say anything of a positive nature about that software or its developers. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 12:13pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/large-stop-signs-confuse-teslas-full-self-driving-technology/186094/7 "2022-08-30T12:13:16Z")
> [@VDCdriver](#): > > Yes, but that certainly doesn’t say anything of a positive nature about that software or its developers. That would NOT be the engineers who coded it. It would be the design spec that told them they’re all the same size. And I seriously doubt that it would be a problem anyways. I can’t see the program using size of an object to determine how far away it is. If so then it would have a hell of a problem determining how far away people are, or dogs are, or cars are or trucks are, or buildings are…etc…etc > [@George\_San\_Jose1](#): > > Weekend tv has a lot of UFO shows in my area, hard to resist Stupidity is easy to resist. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 10:32pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/large-stop-signs-confuse-teslas-full-self-driving-technology/186094/8 "2022-08-30T22:32:41Z")
> [@MikeInNH](#): > > Stupidity is easy to resist. Maybe so, but when programs about UFOs and/or Bigfoots are on, pretty good chance I’m watching … lol …