# KYB, Monroe, or Gabriel? **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Tags:** toyota\ **Created:** [March 21, 2025, 11:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/kyb-monroe-or-gabriel/199573 "2025-03-21T23:19:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dean-in-Des-Moines](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Dean-in-Des-Moines](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Dean-in-Des-Moines)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 11:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/kyb-monroe-or-gabriel/199573/1 "2025-03-21T23:19:50Z")
Which do you recommend? If it matters, I’m replacing front struts on a 2008 Toyota Sienna. I’ll be doing the work in my yard. I’m buying complete assemblies as I have a broken spring. I value ya’ll opinion. Thank you for your advice! ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 11:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/kyb-monroe-or-gabriel/199573/2 "2025-03-21T23:20:59Z")
KYB, Gabriel and Monroe in that order ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 11:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/kyb-monroe-or-gabriel/199573/3 "2025-03-21T23:24:27Z")
KYB has been selling junk since the pandemic. > **[Worst Strut Brands To Avoid In 2025 And Why](https://glennsaid.com/strut-brands-to-avoid/)** > > Riding a car for thousands of miles may directly affect its suspension parts. At that time, most people consider replacing the Struts of their vehicles. Because if they don’t make that replacement, a car may not cover some extra miles on the road.... Tester ---
**Author:** ![Dean-in-Des-Moines](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Dean-in-Des-Moines](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Dean-in-Des-Moines)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 11:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/kyb-monroe-or-gabriel/199573/4 "2025-03-21T23:40:50Z")
Sure, but what brand hasn’t? ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 11:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/kyb-monroe-or-gabriel/199573/5 "2025-03-21T23:51:08Z")
Rockauto shows Sachs available, I was happy with a set of them. ---
**Author:** ![weekend-warrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/weekend-warrior/32/26122_2.png) [@weekend-warrior](https://community.cartalk.com/u/weekend-warrior)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 11:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/kyb-monroe-or-gabriel/199573/6 "2025-03-21T23:52:17Z")
you can try these, and they are made in the USA. I have never tried them, but I have heard good things from other parts they have. [Strut Assemblies Archives - Detroit Axle](https://www.detroitaxle.com/parts/2008-toyota-sienna/strut-assemblies/) [Company Overview - Detroit Axle](https://www.detroitaxle.com/about/) ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 12:08am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/kyb-monroe-or-gabriel/199573/7 "2025-03-22T00:08:55Z")
I got these. $20. Seller car died. Never installed. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/6/3/63c8b482dced0952b9f0a10530d35fc421cac83f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![cigroller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@cigroller](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cigroller)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 12:50am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/kyb-monroe-or-gabriel/199573/8 "2025-03-22T00:50:49Z")
The last ones I bought were from Moog, which I bought based on name alone. They were fine. The worst ones I ever bought were Monroes (that I replaced with the Moogs). The problem is that at this point (and not just because of the pandemic) most of this is just subcontracted out. The ones labeled “Moog” might have come off the same production line as the ones labeled KYB or Gabriel or … whatever. The Sienna is going on 20yrs old. I’d be inclined to go in the order Mustangman gave: > [@Mustangman](#): > > KYB, Gabriel and Monroe in that order But that’s just from the “gut.” Tester has been bringing up the decline in KYB quality for quite a while. If you’re serious about keeping this thing on the road for a long time, then consider buying OEM and doing the strut assy yourself (but VERY carefully). If not…then buy whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 12:55am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/kyb-monroe-or-gabriel/199573/9 "2025-03-22T00:55:24Z")
The auto repair shop the son works for stopped installing KYB products some time ago because of the quality. Too many come-backs. Tester ---
**Author:** ![Dean-in-Des-Moines](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Dean-in-Des-Moines](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Dean-in-Des-Moines)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 12:57am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/kyb-monroe-or-gabriel/199573/10 "2025-03-22T00:57:10Z")
That’s valuable information. Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 6:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/kyb-monroe-or-gabriel/199573/11 "2025-03-22T18:14:42Z")
I put my struts in. Found 1 loose sway bar link. Always something. ![76436772905__9E2BBC63-87C9-433D-82C5-2DCACD8EE7BE](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/d/3/d3f29b3f158680e1705d802579d25c0957313d7a.jpeg)