# Keep the Geo or the Passat?

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/keep-the-geo-or-the-passat/55447>\
**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Tags:** geo, used, selling, prizm, transmissions, volkswagen, passat, engines\
**Created:** [September 22, 2010, 3:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/keep-the-geo-or-the-passat/55447 "2010-09-22T15:51:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![RMT1995](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/rmt1995/32/5847_2.png) [@RMT1995](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RMT1995)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 3:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/keep-the-geo-or-the-passat/55447/1 "2010-09-22T15:51:11Z")

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We have 2 cars, no car payments. Just yesterday the dashboard lights instructed me to STOP–the coolant is leaking ($500) and we may need transmission mounts and engine mounts ($1100).  
  
  
  
 We think we might need a new car but are having a tough time deciding which to keep.  
  
  
  
 The Geo Prizm (95) is reliable and running fine, but w/out A/C. My husband uses it to get to/from work (\<10 miles/day). It has ~90K miles.  
  
  
  
 The one that’s hurting is a 2003 VW Passat (4cyl) Wagon, and it has ~105Kmiles. I use it in work commuting and for family trips. We have the oil changed regularly and have replaced the timing belt. Over the years it’s needed a new waterpump, its engine light comes on frequently, new front axle shaft assemblies, boot repair ($589) misfire faulties for cylindar #2 &4, Coils replaced, fluid leak from enginge- camshaft tensioner seal and valve cover gasket ($426), front brake pads and roters ($500), new tires…the file is thick.  
  
  
  
 At what point do we give up on the VW? Which car to replace first? Any recommendations on new/used? Any car we’d get would have to have good gas mileage.

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**Author:** ![StrongDreamsWaitHere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/strongdreamswaithere/32/2014_2.png) [@StrongDreamsWaitHere](https://community.cartalk.com/u/StrongDreamsWaitHere)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 4:13pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/keep-the-geo-or-the-passat/55447/2 "2010-09-22T16:13:18Z")

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Let’s say a new car payment is $400. If the $1600 in repairs keeps the Passat going for more than 4 months, then you’re ahead, at least in terms of raw economics. Otherwise it sounds like it’s time to get rid of the Passat and buy a new family car, and leave hubby in the Geo. I’ll bet he’ll drive the new car on errands and weekends anyway, so it’s not much of a sacrifice for him to keep the Geo as a commuter car.

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**Author:** ![shadowfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/shadowfax/32/13026_2.png) [@shadowfax](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shadowfax)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 5:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/keep-the-geo-or-the-passat/55447/3 "2010-09-22T17:30:09Z")

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Dump the VW. It’s already broken, and once you fix it it’ll still be unreliable. The Geo Prizm is a re-badged Toyota Corolla and is a very reliable little beast.

If you’re worried about no AC, it is possible to have one installed. I’d go to a junkyard and find a Prizm/Corolla with an intact AC, put it in, and then bring it to an AC shop for leak testing and charging.

Look at used Acura Integras - they’re pretty cheap these days, very reliable, and were nice little cars. Got decent gas mileage too.

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**Author:** ![Scrabbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Scrabbler](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Scrabbler)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 11:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/keep-the-geo-or-the-passat/55447/4 "2010-09-22T23:20:06Z")

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I’d tend to agree if any car has to go, the VW should be the first on the chopping block–it’s the one that’s causing you aggravation. Question to ask yourself: if you get rid of one, and the other bites the dust as well, can you afford two car payments?

As others will undoubtedly recommend, get a copy of Consumer Reports car buying guides for both new and used cars.

Possibilities: Hyundai Elantra Touring 26 mpg overall; Mazda5 23 mpg overall

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**Author:** ![mcparadise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mcparadise/32/32_2.png) [@mcparadise](https://community.cartalk.com/u/mcparadise)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 12:45am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/keep-the-geo-or-the-passat/55447/5 "2010-09-23T00:45:49Z")

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Is this really a difficult decision? The Prizm is one of the most reliable cars on the planet. The Passat . . . not so much.

I’d take any opportunity that came along to dump the Passat. Are you paying dealer prices to repair a 7 year old car?

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**Author:** ![RMT1995](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/rmt1995/32/5847_2.png) [@RMT1995](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RMT1995)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 2:02am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/keep-the-geo-or-the-passat/55447/6 "2010-09-23T02:02:52Z")

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Thanks all. (to answer your question mcparadise, I’ve been to import garages, dealership garages, and a tire-brand name garage. the tire folks were decent-priced, but turned off the check engine light when they couldn’t figure it out. The dealer is like a leech, and the import guy is happy to have my business.)

I guess I didn’t want to believe the first new car I ever bought would go sour faster than an older car I bought used. This has almost scared me off new cars. New decision to make then…how soon do we get rid of the Passat?! Is now a good time to buy, or is there a better time? (Feb?)

as for 2 car payments…as long as one is really, really low, then yes, we could handle it.
