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The Corvair Monza gained a turbo the same year. That “new” technology has been available on production cars for more than 50 years.
Wasn’t that the one that also had the methanol injection? Thankfully turbocharged engines have exponentially increased in reliability and operation in the last 60 years.
You know, for a guy named Mopar you sure have had some GM cars. 
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My wife said on her FB, someone bought a 2025 xle premium and said it whined. I said yes as the electric motor runs from 0 to 42 mph. The person wants to dump it. One persons opinionso take it witha grain of salt
Sorry. Im mid 60s and i know others in their 70s who dont like ev or hybrids. So, you’re right. As for deenergizing, im about clueless so hence my above post.
Didnt think id get this many posts and hope all are ok. No intended offense. I’m old fashioned and hate change.
I don’t know what I got but somewhere in the low 20s. Whatever year it was when gas was $5, I’d fill up every day for $25. So that was $500 a month. Then I bought a different car and retired. Save a lot, no payments, dont drive much now.
I told my staff if you see me in a new car I’m outta here shortly.
I’m in my 70s and like my BEV. When we bought our latest minivan in 2019, I narrowed the choices down to a PHEV and ICE. Mrs JT didn’t trust that new hybrid technology, so we test drove the ICE version of the van. We ended up with an Odyssey EX-L and Mrs JT is very happy.
There is still(63 years later, speculation about “who did it first”) Chevy or Olds. Olds released the Jetfire 2 weeks before the turbocharged Corvair. I wasted a lot of time in the GM archives finding that tidbit of useless information.
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Yes, and no.
The “turbo fluid” that was sold at GM parts counters was mostly water, with enough methanol to prevent it from freezing. Even though that fluid was important for the functioning of the Jetfire engine, some owners balked at having to add it periodically, and–surprise, surprise–those were the Olds owners who experienced engine repair problems.
I’m waiting for someone to rant that we need to bring back flathead engines because the “new” OHV technology isn’t reliable.
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Does the 1962 Olds Jetfire turbo engine being the 1st (cough cough) OEM turbo in a car make this the 1st OEM boost gauge in a car??
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Yes it was. When the car was being designed, the engineers felt that with the 10.25 to 1 compression ratio there was a danger of pre-ignition under boost conditions, so they asked the corporate powertrain guys for a different crank for the Jetfire and corporate said no, it would be too expensive for a car with the anticipated low sales volume. The Olds engineers decided to try water injection to cool the charge. It worked.
@VDCdriver does a great job.of explaining the subsequent events.
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Explains why nobody else tried that high of a CR on a turbo for decades.
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It’s not the motor or the inverter. That’s the noise it makes to alert pedestrians when it’s running on electric only (acoustic vehicle alert system). That noise shuts off above a certain speed. Otherwise, it would be very quiet with just tire noise. The powers that be mandate the sound for pedestrian protection. It makes a more obnoxious noise backing up…
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I have an '03 Toyota Prius (1st gen) with about 220K on it. It is on a reman HV battery pack, but even those are generally just refurbished from used OEM good cells to replace used failing ones. I’m knocking on wood as I type, but it’s been fine. Lasting longer than I ever thought it could… Let’s be real - it’s a bunch of 22/23 year old cells still kicking it? That’s weird. In a good way.
At 46 mpg average it’s been a “free” car for a while now (based on gas $$ savings). I’ll be swapping it out at some point for another Prius (or maybe a RAV4 hybrid) without worries re: the HV battery pack.
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I think that the audible alert cuts out at around 23 mph. Without “the angels’ chorus”, blind pedestrians would be endangered.
Distracted pedestrians too.
Yes
On more than one occasion, I have seen people crossing the street while engrossed with their phone, and the audible warning sound has suddenly made them aware that my vehicle was nearing them.
Yeah, the people that go around spouting off about “I don’t want to have to buy an expensive battery pack” just don’t get it. A battery pack can be replaced for less than the cost of a transmission replacement, and guess what? Batteries are failing less often than transmissions.
Would the car be even “free-er” where I live? Gas is about $4.50 now.
Not everyone uses a whining noise, the manufacturer I work for introduced a model that had kind of a mechanical sound, reminded me of a chain and gears, that changed pitch with speed. One early customer stated there was a problem with the transmission in EV mode, it made a grinding sound on the 2-1 downshift. Yes, it was the AVAS sound. A subsequent update changed that sound to a more electrical note.
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