# Jeep **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Tags:** cherokee, jeep\ **Created:** [November 24, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/jeep/57937 "2010-11-24T18:10:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![\_Deleted\_User1111116](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/ac91a4/32.png) [@\_Deleted\_User1111116](https://community.cartalk.com/u/_Deleted_User1111116)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/jeep/57937/1 "2010-11-24T18:10:26Z")
Unlike Toyota Jeep has no built in pull points…(stuck in the mud ect.) What gives? Why would they do that and what are the remedies ---
**Author:** ![Joseph\_E\_Meehan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/joseph_e_meehan/32/21_2.png) [@Joseph\_E\_Meehan](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Joseph_E_Meehan)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/jeep/57937/2 "2010-11-24T19:32:27Z")
``` I would guess you could have them added. If the Toyota is made outside the US, then likely they put the points on to secure the car in transit. ``` ---
**Author:** ![\_Deleted\_User1111116](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/ac91a4/32.png) [@\_Deleted\_User1111116](https://community.cartalk.com/u/_Deleted_User1111116)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/jeep/57937/3 "2010-11-24T19:46:55Z")
Thanks. I understand i can put something on jeep just looking for input on that. Toyota has many times open hooks on front that work great. If they dont have them they can be easily added by removing bumper bolts and add the hooks. Ive always been surprised that a name that associates itself with off road has no hooking points other than axle ect ---
**Author:** ![\_Deleted\_User1111116](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/ac91a4/32.png) [@\_Deleted\_User1111116](https://community.cartalk.com/u/_Deleted_User1111116)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/jeep/57937/4 "2010-11-24T19:48:30Z")
Bumper bolts or holes already in the frame…i forget but its quick n easy ---
**Author:** ![ken\_green](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/ken_green/32/816_2.png) [@ken\_green](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ken_green)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/jeep/57937/5 "2010-11-24T19:49:02Z")
Much is reletive to vehicle type and year. most towing pull points are slots in the frame the t-hooks fit in. For more bolt on quick hooks and loops visit [4WD.com](http://4WD.com) and [quadratec.com](http://quadratec.com) It’s a Jeep thing, you wouldn’t understand. ---
**Author:** ![galant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/77aa72/32.png) [@galant](https://community.cartalk.com/u/galant)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 7:43am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/jeep/57937/6 "2010-11-25T07:43:19Z")
Its a Jeep, won’t get stuck-ever. ---
**Author:** ![oblivion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3ab097/32.png) [@oblivion](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oblivion)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 1:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/jeep/57937/7 "2010-11-25T13:23:56Z")
This just means you should get a nice beefy winch added to the front 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![\_Deleted\_User1111116](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/ac91a4/32.png) [@\_Deleted\_User1111116](https://community.cartalk.com/u/_Deleted_User1111116)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 2:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/jeep/57937/8 "2010-11-25T14:18:48Z")
How much work to gear it down? ---
**Author:** ![MG-McAnick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mg-mcanick/32/188_2.png) [@MG-McAnick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MG-McAnick)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/jeep/57937/9 "2010-11-25T19:04:45Z")
Depending on the “package” the original orderer of your Jeep specified, it could have come from the factory with belly pans and pull hooks. Adding the hooks is no big deal. Why don’t they put hooks on all of them? Two good reasons. Expense. Not everyone wants them. ---
**Author:** ![mark9207](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71c47a/32.png) [@mark9207](https://community.cartalk.com/u/mark9207)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 3:05am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/jeep/57937/10 "2010-11-26T03:05:49Z")
Most people use Cherokees and Grand Cherokees as passenger vehicles and family haulers. Adding tow hooks would only add to the expense of an already expensive vehicle. Aftermarket tow hooks are easy to find and easy to install with a little drilling. I have added them to a couple of my vehicles, and they are easy to install. ---
**Author:** ![\_Deleted\_User1111116](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/ac91a4/32.png) [@\_Deleted\_User1111116](https://community.cartalk.com/u/_Deleted_User1111116)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 1:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/jeep/57937/11 "2010-11-26T13:09:34Z")
Sounds good. Where might i find these add on hooks? ---
**Author:** ![mark9207](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71c47a/32.png) [@mark9207](https://community.cartalk.com/u/mark9207)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 11:35pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/jeep/57937/12 "2010-11-26T23:35:32Z")
Many auto parts stores sell them. You could also try [quadratec.com](http://quadratec.com) to see what they have. You could also request a catalog if you are interested in other 4x4 stuff, like lifts, gears, lockers, etc. ---
**Author:** ![\_Deleted\_User1111116](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/ac91a4/32.png) [@\_Deleted\_User1111116](https://community.cartalk.com/u/_Deleted_User1111116)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 12:42am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/jeep/57937/13 "2010-11-27T00:42:29Z")
A catalog from Quadratrac? ill c what i can find online. I would like to gear in down and a locking rear. Its already lifted with 235’s n gearing seems a little high. I want to go with 31’s ---
**Author:** ![mark9207](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71c47a/32.png) [@mark9207](https://community.cartalk.com/u/mark9207)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/jeep/57937/14 "2010-11-27T18:04:20Z")
31’s will usually fit where 235’s fit. They’re a little bigger, but not much.