# It's Smart Not Having A Back Seat ! Huh?

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/its-smart-not-having-a-back-seat-huh/55322>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** smart, fortwo\
**Created:** [September 19, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/its-smart-not-having-a-back-seat-huh/55322 "2010-09-19T14:27:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![common-sense-answer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/common-sense-answer/32/716_2.png) [@common-sense-answer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/common-sense-answer)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/its-smart-not-having-a-back-seat-huh/55322/1 "2010-09-19T14:27:05Z")

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[http://www…lly-Smart-](http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100919/OPINION03/9190302/1148/-Banned--TV-car-commercial-really-Smart-)  
  
  
  
 Where do you put golf clubs ?

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**Author:** ![twotone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@twotone](https://community.cartalk.com/u/twotone)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 3:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/its-smart-not-having-a-back-seat-huh/55322/2 "2010-09-19T15:30:08Z")

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Just buy a Mini Cooper

Twotone

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**Author:** ![cigroller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@cigroller](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cigroller)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 4:03pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/its-smart-not-having-a-back-seat-huh/55322/3 "2010-09-19T16:03:00Z")

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I have always thought these should just be called “dumb” cars. At least for most people.

Its not that I wouldn’t actually own and drive one of those tin cans. But if I did it should be getting 66/82 mpg - rather than the 33/41 it is rated for. Either that or it should be all electric (tho I think you can get them that way).

My Escort wagon has room for 4 (5 if the 3 in the back are really skinny and like each other a lot) and all of their golf clubs and gets 33mpg. dumb car is the only thing I can think of whenever I see one. I see several around the road of central VA - lots of rural hwy, interstate, suburban city style driving. I can just never figure what the upside was b/c it isn’t energy efficiency.

I’d look at one of those if I lived & needed a car in an older walking city (including most European cities) - easy to park & fit down those tight streets.

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**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/its-smart-not-having-a-back-seat-huh/55322/4 "2010-09-23T19:46:53Z")

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I’m with Cig on this. About the time these were coming out, 2005, I read the mileage estimates and was stunned by how disappointing they were. My brand new Corola was getting an honest 38 highway and was a real car with real utility value.

In truth, people buy them 'cause they’re cute. That’ll fade when people realize that the cuteness comes with a price premium and a severe compromise in utility. There are other cars out there, real csrs, that cost less, get better mileage, and are actually usable for everything you need a car for.

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**Author:** ![doubleclutch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/doubleclutch/32/1281_2.png) [@doubleclutch](https://community.cartalk.com/u/doubleclutch)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 9:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/its-smart-not-having-a-back-seat-huh/55322/5 "2010-09-23T21:49:51Z")

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I found cig’s reply funny because my wife and I have always called them dumb cars for the same reasons posted in this thread. The commercial is pretty funny, though.

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**Author:** ![waterboy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/waterboy/32/764_2.png) [@waterboy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/waterboy)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 10:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/its-smart-not-having-a-back-seat-huh/55322/6 "2010-09-23T22:54:39Z")

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You don’t want to play golf in the rain so,  
[http://clubsmartcar.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=17244](http://clubsmartcar.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=17244)  
You may even not have to rent a golf cart, but as always try to avoid sand traps!  
[http://www.courant.com/media/photo/2010-08/185861640-19064726.jpg](http://www.courant.com/media/photo/2010-08/185861640-19064726.jpg)

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**Author:** ![FoDaddy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/fodaddy/32/717_2.png) [@FoDaddy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/FoDaddy)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 2:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/its-smart-not-having-a-back-seat-huh/55322/7 "2010-09-24T14:25:30Z")

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I want to know how many clowns can fit inside.

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**Author:** ![bscar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bscar/32/34_2.png) [@bscar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bscar)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 1:10am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/its-smart-not-having-a-back-seat-huh/55322/8 "2010-09-26T01:10:22Z")

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dead or alive? 😛
