# Is Volkswagen doing enough for TDI owners?

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-volkswagen-doing-enough-for-tdi-owners/96343>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** volkswagen\
**Created:** [November 3, 2016, 7:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-volkswagen-doing-enough-for-tdi-owners/96343 "2016-11-03T19:54:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![hungrysquirrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/hungrysquirrel/32/3302_2.png) [@hungrysquirrel](https://community.cartalk.com/u/hungrysquirrel)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 7:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-volkswagen-doing-enough-for-tdi-owners/96343/1 "2016-11-03T19:54:19Z")

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I am genuinely interested to hear what people think. I am not trying to prove a point or make a statement.

_Poll ([view on site](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-volkswagen-doing-enough-for-tdi-owners/96343/1))_

Check out these TDI articles and link to others you found useful.

> **[DIESELGATE: Volkswagen Sued by Their Own Dealers](http://bestride.com/news/industry-news/volkswagen-sued-by-their-own-dealers)**
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> Related Posts: No, You Can't Strip Your Diesel Vokswagen and Take the Buyback Justice Department Files Suit Against Volkswagen Volkswagen Sales are Well and Truly Tanking Volkswagen Says Sorry With $1000 Gift Cards for Diesel Owners

  

> **[Justice Department Files Suit Against Volkswagen](http://bestride.com/news/safety-and-recalls/justice-department-volkswagen-lawsuit)**
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> Related Posts: No, You Can't Strip Your Diesel Vokswagen and Take the Buyback DIESELGATE: Volkswagen Sued by Their Own Dealers Volkswagen Sales are Well and Truly Tanking Forget December to Remember; Here's How One Buyer Got 20% Off a New Volkswagen...

  

> **[Guide to the Volkswagen Emissions Recall](https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/guide-to-the-volkswagen-dieselgate-emissions-recall-)**
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> Consumers have been left with many unanswered questions related to the Volkswagen emissions recall situation. Here’s what we know so far...

  

> **[Here's Exactly How Much Volkswagen Will Pay You For Your Diesel Car](https://jalopnik.com/heres-exactly-how-much-volkswagen-will-pay-you-for-your-1782745097)**
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> As part of the unprecedented $14.7 billion settlement released earlier today, Volkswagen will offer substantial cash payments to owners of the 482,000 diesel four-cylinder cars affected by the emissions cheating scandal. If you own one of...

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 4:07am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-volkswagen-doing-enough-for-tdi-owners/96343/2 "2016-11-04T04:07:31Z")

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Gee what do owners expect?

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**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:26am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-volkswagen-doing-enough-for-tdi-owners/96343/3 "2016-11-04T05:26:42Z")

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WTH . . . ?!

Those articles are from 7 and 10 months ago, respectively

What are you trying to accomplish . . . are you collecting data for some research paper?

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**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:51am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-volkswagen-doing-enough-for-tdi-owners/96343/4 "2016-11-04T05:51:28Z")

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I believe he is trying to inspire activity on a message board ruled by festering members.

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**Author:** ![hungrysquirrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/hungrysquirrel/32/3302_2.png) [@hungrysquirrel](https://community.cartalk.com/u/hungrysquirrel)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 1:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-volkswagen-doing-enough-for-tdi-owners/96343/5 "2016-11-04T13:30:02Z")

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@db4690

In my lifetime and experience as a car owner I have not seen anything like this happen before. I am simply curious…no research paper or “big idea” up my sleeve.

Yes they are older articles. If you have others that you’ve found to be informative please share some links.

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 1:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-volkswagen-doing-enough-for-tdi-owners/96343/6 "2016-11-04T13:46:03Z")

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This is current, there are TDI owners now complaining that the deal isn’t ‘good enough’. Some want full retail buyback!

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**Author:** ![ok4450](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ok4450](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ok4450)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 2:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-volkswagen-doing-enough-for-tdi-owners/96343/7 "2016-11-04T14:10:33Z")

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If you do some research you will find that all car makers have done things that are not on the up and up. Many of them then looked the other way or tried to cover it up.

Ford and their TFI module…  
Honda and the ECM which overlooked misfires…  
Chrysler and multiple cheating on diesel emissions…  
GM and ignition switches…  
Subaru and the pinion spring in the steering rack…

In the past in Japan, several top Toyota execs were arrested for conspiring to cover up a ball joint problem…  
The CEO of Mitsubishi was arrested for doing the same thing…

There’s really no end to this type of thing.

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**Author:** ![idiot666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c68b51/32.png) [@idiot666](https://community.cartalk.com/u/idiot666)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 4:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-volkswagen-doing-enough-for-tdi-owners/96343/8 "2016-11-10T16:49:05Z")

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> [@texases](#):
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> This is current, there are TDI owners now complaining that the deal isn’t ‘good enough’. Some want full retail buyback!

That is what they should get! The penalty should be so high no car exec would ever think of doing this fraud ever again. All the cars should go directly into the crusher.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 5:08pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-volkswagen-doing-enough-for-tdi-owners/96343/9 "2016-11-10T17:08:43Z")

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Life belongs to those who are reasonable. That argument could be made for any violation of the law. Speeding? Confiscate the car plus a $5000 fine. Be sure there will be a special interest group that would support and push for it so be careful what is wished for.

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**Author:** ![Propane\_Car](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/propane_car/32/6561_2.png) [@Propane\_Car](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Propane_Car)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-volkswagen-doing-enough-for-tdi-owners/96343/10 "2016-11-10T18:48:05Z")

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> [@idiot666](#):
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> The penalty should be so high no car exec would ever think of doing this fraud ever again.

I think texting while driving should result in the immediate execution. Is that extreme enough to prevent people from texting while driving? Probably not. Maybe something that is fair and reasonable is the best approach. My aunt and uncle have one of the diesels involved in this mess. They are ecstatic because they are getting way more for the car than it is worth.
