# Is this board fading out?

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-this-board-fading-out/90166>\
**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Created:** [June 4, 2015, 2:08am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-this-board-fading-out/90166 "2015-06-04T02:08:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 9:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-this-board-fading-out/90166/121 "2015-06-13T21:30:04Z")

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Yeah I noticed the “to” instead of “too” also but didn’t say anything. Then again, I’m not so sure some of the professors would know the difference. I about fell off my chair when I got our state Legion paper this month and one of the columnists began by using “right” instead of “write”. I’m ready to go on a campaign but its a long fight with the newspaper robots writing the articles.

I guess if you need a PhD though, you’ve got to write about something.

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**Author:** ![kmccune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/kmccune/32/1237_2.png) [@kmccune](https://community.cartalk.com/u/kmccune)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 9:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-this-board-fading-out/90166/122 "2015-06-13T21:56:04Z")

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@VDC,I never saw but one Olds Omega@.CSA,I dont recall seeing an Alpha Romeo,this far back

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**Author:** ![kmccune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/kmccune/32/1237_2.png) [@kmccune](https://community.cartalk.com/u/kmccune)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-this-board-fading-out/90166/123 "2015-06-13T21:57:43Z")

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@Marnet,I love that work.

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**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 10:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-this-board-fading-out/90166/124 "2015-06-13T22:29:23Z")

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@Barkydog

"must have seen there are no bullies . . . "

You’re being kind

But you’re also incorrect, in my opinion

I won’t bother mentioning any names, because it would serve no purpose

😁

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**Author:** ![Rod-Knox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Rod-Knox](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rod-Knox)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 11:08pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-this-board-fading-out/90166/125 "2015-06-13T23:08:06Z")

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I can’t climb past Mercury Zephyr today @VDC. But I promise I’ll do better tomorrow all you alphas.

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**Author:** ![MG-McAnick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mg-mcanick/32/188_2.png) [@MG-McAnick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MG-McAnick)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2015, 1:41am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-this-board-fading-out/90166/126 "2015-06-14T01:41:49Z")

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OK @Marnet I have Hall of the Mountain King going through my mind now, but I have to ask why…

To keep this automotive, I had a friend who had a right hand drive '39 Chevy several years ago that he claimed was built in Norway. He and his American parents spent the duration of WWII in Norway. He was quite young then. I don’t know why they got stuck there. They brought the car back here with them.

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**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2015, 1:46am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-this-board-fading-out/90166/127 "2015-06-14T01:46:41Z")

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Looking for my king crimson cassette to cruise and listen to hall of the mountain king, oh wait no cassette player. It’ll be dark by the time I rip it from vinyl to cd and I do not like to drive after dark, oh well high school was so 70’s…

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**Author:** ![MG-McAnick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mg-mcanick/32/188_2.png) [@MG-McAnick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MG-McAnick)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2015, 1:59am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-this-board-fading-out/90166/128 "2015-06-14T01:59:12Z")

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I think BTK has left the building. Either that, or he’s lurking, taking copious notes about our misguided personalities.

To keep this automotive, @Barkydog , I had an MGB a couple of years ago that still had a working 8-track in it. Did you know that Bill Lear, of LearJet fame, also invented the first practical car radio AND the 4-track cassette player? I know lots of Bill Lear stories, but they aren’t all automotive. Some of them are down right naughty.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2015, 2:17am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-this-board-fading-out/90166/129 "2015-06-14T02:17:53Z")

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Back about 1978 I traded my 8 track tapes to my neighbor for his Fuzz Buster. He had a diesel Eldorado and I drove 100 miles a day on a 55 mph interstate. Seemed like a good trade but the thing never worked right. Glad I got rid of the tapes. Now I don’t even have a working player for my cassettes and I’m wondering about the future of my CDs.

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**Author:** ![common-sense-answer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/common-sense-answer/32/716_2.png) [@common-sense-answer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/common-sense-answer)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2015, 2:20am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-this-board-fading-out/90166/130 "2015-06-14T02:20:05Z")

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**_I Had A Craig Under-Dash 8-Track Player In The 71 Super Beetle. Great Sound, But The Box Of Those Bulky Tapes Took Up A Lot Of Precious Interior Space!  
CSA_**

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**Author:** ![Marnet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/marnet/32/41_2.png) [@Marnet](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Marnet)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2015, 2:54am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-this-board-fading-out/90166/131 "2015-06-14T02:54:29Z")

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@“MG McAnick” The Hall of the Mountain King is about trolls. {:-))

Regarding cars in Norway during WWII, to cope with petrol shortage under Nazi occupation, Norwegians devised adapting gasoline powered cars to run on steam generated by burning wood, the system encased in a little trailer pulled behind the car. Can you imagine a world of cars dragging burning wood building steam behind each car!

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**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2015, 3:43am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-this-board-fading-out/90166/132 "2015-06-14T03:43:09Z")

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@marnet never saw the troll connection, do not see it now. Remember one anthropology teacher talking about kerosene flame powered refrigerators, now that is counter intuitive. Remember Crimson and clover over and over being banned, due to anti war crimson blood and clover graveyard, so the crimson king must have been bloodthirsty also, what king are they referring to?

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**Author:** ![Marnet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/marnet/32/41_2.png) [@Marnet](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Marnet)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2015, 3:50am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-this-board-fading-out/90166/133 "2015-06-14T03:50:21Z")

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Ah yes, Kelvinator brand refrigerators ran on natural gas so I can see either propane or kerosene powered fridge compressors.

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**Author:** ![Triedaq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Triedaq](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Triedaq)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2015, 4:09am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-this-board-fading-out/90166/134 "2015-06-14T04:09:59Z")

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I didn’t know that Kelvinator made a gas refrigerator. The company that I remember that made gas refrigerators was Servel. There was no compressor. The gas flame.heated the refrigerant which expanded. I’ve forgotten how the rest of the cycle worked. These refrigerators were common in parts of New York City which had direct current even into the 1950s. I think Servel went out of business in 1957. However, there are propane refrigerators available for camping trailers.

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**Author:** ![Marnet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/marnet/32/41_2.png) [@Marnet](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Marnet)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2015, 4:45am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-this-board-fading-out/90166/135 "2015-06-14T04:45:40Z")

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I stand corrected. Got brand names confused.

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**Author:** ![Rod-Knox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Rod-Knox](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rod-Knox)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2015, 5:36am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-this-board-fading-out/90166/136 "2015-06-14T05:36:57Z")

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Yes @Barkydog, there are keroscene powered refrigerators with no apparent moving parts. The fuel burns in a catalyst bed and heats a refrigerant filled coil. We Marines were known to appreciate a cold beer on occasion and even within sight of the DMZ we had a refrigerator for the beer if/when we could get it. And there was plenty of JP-4 to be scrounged which worked quite well. I never understood just how it worked but it did work.

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**Author:** ![insightful](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/insightful/32/2732_2.png) [@insightful](https://community.cartalk.com/u/insightful)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2015, 6:20am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-this-board-fading-out/90166/137 "2015-06-14T06:20:38Z")

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How “wood gas” was used for vehicles:

> **[Wood gas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas)**
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> Wood gas is a syngas fuel which can be used as a fuel for furnaces, stoves and vehicles in place of gasoline, diesel or other fuels. During the production process biomass or other carbon-containing materials are gasified within the oxygen-limited environment of a wood gas generator to produce hydrogen and carbon monoxide. These gases can then be burnt as a fuel within an oxygen rich environment to produce carbon dioxide, water and heat. In some gasifiers this process is preceded by pyrolysis, whe...

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**Author:** ![galant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/77aa72/32.png) [@galant](https://community.cartalk.com/u/galant)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2015, 6:35am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-this-board-fading-out/90166/138 "2015-06-14T06:35:36Z")

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I had forgotten the Kelvinator brand. I had seen on of those gas burning fridges, amazing.

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**Author:** ![insightful](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/insightful/32/2732_2.png) [@insightful](https://community.cartalk.com/u/insightful)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2015, 6:48am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-this-board-fading-out/90166/139 "2015-06-14T06:48:16Z")

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It’s called “absorption refrigeration” and is commonly used in RV refrigerators:

[http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~mnr/fridge.html](http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~mnr/fridge.html)

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**Author:** ![MG-McAnick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mg-mcanick/32/188_2.png) [@MG-McAnick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MG-McAnick)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2015, 7:29am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-this-board-fading-out/90166/140 "2015-06-14T07:29:53Z")

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@Marnet I tied _In the Hall of the Mountain King_ to Edvard Grieg, perhaps Norway’s best known composer. (Gosh, were there others?) I didn’t tie it to trolls. Sorry I missed your connection.

The cars that burned wood in Norway and Germany, and several other countries where gasoline could not be had, didn’t run on steam. They ran on gasses produced by destructive distillation of wood or other combustible materials. See: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood\_gas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas) and [https://www.google.com/search?q=wood+burning+cars+during+wwii&biw=1433&bih=648&site=webhp&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CDAQsARqFQoTCLim07WVjsYCFUwVkgod7JwDMw&dpr=1.1](https://www.google.com/search?q=wood+burning+cars+during+wwii&biw=1433&bih=648&site=webhp&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CDAQsARqFQoTCLim07WVjsYCFUwVkgod7JwDMw&dpr=1.1)

We had a rather lengthy discussion about them here a few years ago.

I saw a 1932 Mercedes Benz near here about 45 years ago that had been converted. The big rubberized canvas gas bag that had been on the roof was missing, but the burner was still mounted on the back IIRC. The widow of the man who had imported it wanted $2000 for it. I could only dream of ownership. Talk about a piece of history.

@Rod_Knox Motorhomes and campers still use gas refrigerators. Many will run on a gas flame, AC electricity, or battery power. The fridge in my grandmother’s kitchen was a gas unit, even though the house was wired for electricity in the '30s. It was an antique when I was a kid.

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