# Is there hope -- Water for Gas? **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Created:** [July 10, 2008, 2:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-there-hope-water-for-gas/16497 "2008-07-10T14:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![art1966](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/77aa72/32.png) [@art1966](https://community.cartalk.com/u/art1966)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2008, 2:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-there-hope-water-for-gas/16497/1 "2008-07-10T14:50:17Z")
Michele Singletary’s personal finance column appears in the Washington Post. Today she reports that the BBB and the EPA are trying to warn people about mileage-increasing scams. I thought you guys might be interested. [http://www…01980.html](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/09/AR2008070901980.html) ---
**Author:** ![NYBo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nybo/32/17281_2.png) [@NYBo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/NYBo)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2008, 2:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-there-hope-water-for-gas/16497/2 "2008-07-10T14:57:17Z")
It’s good that the mainstream media are issuing these warnings. Maybe a few people will actually heed the warnings. But with people desperate to reduce their fuel costs… ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2008, 3:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-there-hope-water-for-gas/16497/3 "2008-07-10T15:00:40Z")
I am glad that they are trying to warn people away from this type of scam, but unfortunately, people have a tendency to believe what they want to believe. Desperation and hard times breed gullibility, I fear. So, despite the best efforts to publicize the scam nature of this and similar pseudoscience concepts, some people will continue to waste their money, and it is likely that these will be the people who can least afford it. ---
**Author:** ![mr\_josh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mr_josh/32/3008_2.png) [@mr\_josh](https://community.cartalk.com/u/mr_josh)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2008, 3:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-there-hope-water-for-gas/16497/4 "2008-07-10T15:23:53Z")
“The EPA has evaluated or tested more than 100 devices promoted as gas-saving and has not found any that significantly improves mileage, said Howard Schwartz, director of communications for the Better Business Bureau of Connecticut, which also issued a warning to consumers.” And there you have it. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2008, 3:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-there-hope-water-for-gas/16497/5 "2008-07-10T15:23:54Z")
There’s even a link to that independent third-party tester. In this case, the EPA. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2008, 3:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-there-hope-water-for-gas/16497/6 "2008-07-10T15:27:47Z")
I’m glad to see the warning…But I would love to see the EPA actually bring charges against these people. They have the authority. They’ve done it before. These CROOKS need to behind bars…PERIOD. Along with the Spammers that work for them. The ONLY way to stop these crooks is with criminal prosecution. Let them spend 10 years behind bars and forfeit ALL money they made from these scams. Why people like Kevin Trudeau isn’t behind bars is beyond me. ---
**Author:** ![cappy208](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cappy208/32/31_2.png) [@cappy208](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cappy208)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2008, 3:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-there-hope-water-for-gas/16497/7 "2008-07-10T15:29:08Z")
FINALLY…PROOF! IT’S A SCAM! WHODATHUNKIT? ---
**Author:** ![ok4450](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ok4450](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ok4450)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2008, 5:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-there-hope-water-for-gas/16497/8 "2008-07-10T17:39:28Z")
You can safely bet that a number of people will see articles like this and then blindly plow ahead anyway in blind desperation. It doesn’t help that many news outlets continue to propogate stories insinuating that scams like these actually work. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2008, 5:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-there-hope-water-for-gas/16497/9 "2008-07-10T17:49:58Z")
And you’ll see the next round of advertising by theses SCUM… “As seen in the Washington Post.” ---
**Author:** ![bscar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bscar/32/34_2.png) [@bscar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bscar)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-there-hope-water-for-gas/16497/10 "2008-07-10T21:42:54Z")
I don’t think they CAN get these scammers. Have you ONCE seen any actual contact info provided on the websites for this crap besides some “local sales agent”? They’d hafta start by arresting those people, then work their way up the ladder of the pyramid scam. ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2008, 9:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-there-hope-water-for-gas/16497/11 "2008-07-10T21:49:37Z")
Another trick is to place an ad in a magazine like PM and then say “as seen in Popular Mechanics”. I suspect that’s why we’re getting so many enquiries.