# Is Citgo the ugliest name for an oil company?

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**Created:** [May 29, 2023, 1:16am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-citgo-the-ugliest-name-for-an-oil-company/190862 "2023-05-29T01:16:17Z")\
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Google to the rescue…

“In 1959, the remaining oil and natural gas companies were reformed as Cities Service Oil Company. In 1964, Cities Service changed its marketing brand by introducing the name CITGO — keeping the first syllable of its name and ending with GO to imply power, according to the CITGO website.”

From that Citgo Heritage Web Page…

“In 1965, Cities Service debuted its new marketing brand, CITGO; and the now familiar “trimark” logo. Retaining the first syllable of its long-standing name and ending with “GO,” the brand symbolized energy and progressiveness.”

> **[Heritage](https://www.citgo.com/about/heritage)**

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**Author:** ![Triedaq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Triedaq](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Triedaq)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 6:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-citgo-the-ugliest-name-for-an-oil-company/190862/22 "2023-05-30T18:15:58Z")

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When I was a kid, every Monday night I would listen to the Cities Service Band of America conducted by Paul LaValle. The program aired on a.m radio from 1948 to January of 1956. I thought that when I was old enough to own a car, I would always fill the tank with Cities Service gasoline. After Cities Service quit sponsoring the band, I figured I wouldn’t buy Cities Service products. I don’t think there are any Citgo stations in my community these days.

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> [@Triedaq](#):
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> After Cities Service quit sponsoring the band, I figured I wouldn’t buy Cities Service products. I don’t think there are any Citgo stations in my community these days.

After Citgo became an arm of the Venezuelan government, I stopped buying gas from their stations. I’m pretty sure that–like me–you wouldn’t want to do anything to support the totalitarian government in Venezuela, which is a major violator of human rights, so even if they return to sponsoring your favorite band, I don’t think that you should buy their products.

> **[More Venezuela creditors granted right to seize Citgo shares if sanctions change](https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/more-venezuela-creditors-granted-right-seize-citgo-shares-if-sanctions-change-2023-03-24/)**
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> A U.S. judge has granted four companies the right to seize shares in the parent of refiner Citgo Petroleum Corp (PDVSAC.UL) to collect on debts owed by Venezuela, in the event U.S. sanctions on that country are modified.

> **[World Report 2022: Rights Trends in Venezuela](https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2022/country-chapters/venezuela)**

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**Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 9:45pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-citgo-the-ugliest-name-for-an-oil-company/190862/24 "2023-05-30T21:45:36Z")

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It’s only me but I suspect another marketing blunder or at least a brand not being worth what they paid the experts for it. Sure I remember cities service, but I never related that orange triangle and Citgo, just never even thought about it. Total blank. Orange triangle a meaningless symbol. Can’t remember ever buying from them but now I’ll put them in the same place as bp under my unfavored company list. It is getting pretty long though.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 10:03pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-citgo-the-ugliest-name-for-an-oil-company/190862/25 "2023-05-30T22:03:36Z")

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> [@RandomTroll](#):
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> Is Terrible Herbst the funniest for a gas station?

I’ve never seen that name. In this area we have a chain of gas stations called “Rotten Robbie”. Said to have that name b/c they undercut the price, annoying the other stations owners.

Terrible Herbst? I would have called it “Horrible Herbst”, more poetic, alliterative.

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I always thought Kum and Go was ugliest. They started out in Iowa and have invaded the Missouri/Kansas area.

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> [@texases](#):
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> I don’t think they ever did that.

> [@VDCdriver](#):
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> Citgo and Sinclair are separate corporations–both years ago, and today.

Wonder how I got that idea. Thanks for setting me straight.

I have a guess: Sinclair bought out Citgo’s stations in Maryland? @jtsanders is a Marylander - does he remember this?

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> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#):
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> I would have called it “Horrible Herbst”, more poetic, alliterative.

Alliteration cloys. ‘Terrible’ is assonant, less familiar, subtler.

It is (was?) in Arizona and eastern southern California.

Does Robbie sell a brand of gas?

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Well in as much as this thread is still going I liked the TV show Dinosaurs, many of the main characters had the names of gas/oil companies. Leading character, the Dad, was Earl Sinclair.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 12:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-citgo-the-ugliest-name-for-an-oil-company/190862/30 "2023-05-31T12:29:07Z")

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> [@RandomTroll](#):
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> I have a guess: Sinclair bought out Citgo’s stations in Maryland? @jtsanders is a Marylander - does he remember this?

Nope. I don’t remember any Sinclair stations in southern Montgomery County or NW DC where I rode with my parents or did my driving.

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Sinclair left the Eastern US marketplace back around 1970, following purchase of the company by ARCO, but some Sinclair stations are beginning to pop-up again here, and in neighboring states. A few days ago, I saw one in PA and their sign said something about “Dinocare”. Assuming that they’re not resurrecting dinosaurs and nurtering them, I’m guessing “Dinocare” indicates that this station features repairs, in addition to gas.

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> [@RandomTroll](#):
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> Alliteration cloys. ‘Terrible’ is assonant, less familiar, subtler.

Maybe this is why _The New Yorker_ always refuses to publish my poetry … lol …I get one rejection slip after another.

> [@RandomTroll](#):
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> Does Robbie sell a brand of gas?

Rotten Robbie brand only. I doubt they have their own refinery, so the product they sell is probably the same or nearly the same as a branded gasoline.

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> [@Purebred](#):
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> Well in as much as this thread is still going I liked the TV show Dinosaurs, many of the main characters had the names of gas/oil companies. Leading character, the Dad, was Earl Sinclair.

I remember the Sinclair Gas Logo had a Dinosaur on the sign.

[History - 1930s | Sinclair Oil](https://www.sinclairoil.com/history/1930.html#:~:text=Advertising%20writers%20first%20introduced%20Sinclair's,dinosaurs%2C%20was%20a%20great%20success).

I have not seen a Sinclair Gas Station in years. The closest one is in New Jersey, over 300 miles away. Do they still have the Dinosaur on the Logo?

 ![sinclair](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/a/d/ad7ab06ac6987212edd931f90e29a1cadf18a9f8.jpeg)

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Like I said before there is a Sinclair station on the far western edge of Minnesota. The only one I know of but I don’t recommend the attached snack bar. On 75 outside of Ivanhoe. Mostly Germans there and an eager city patrolman. Yeah, I was stopped there too.

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> [@bing](#):
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> The only one I know of but I don’t recommend the attached snack bar.

Find a Sinclair Station Near You, this link is how I found the one in NJ. Besides finding them, the map can be used to avoid them… L 😄 L…

> **[Sinclair Gas Station Finder | Sinclair Oil Corporation](https://www.sinclairoil.com/find-sinclair-gas-station-near-you)**
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> Need to fill up your tank? Use the Sinclair Station finder to find a gas station near you. View station maps, addresses, hours, amenities and get driving directions.

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Who knew there were that many but they didn’t list Ivanhoe. Actually I’ve been through most of those towns in minnesota and South Dakota but never paid any attention to the Sinclair stations. The one in Algona, Iowa though is a little out of the way but worth the trip. They have the ww2 prisoner of war camp museum there. The stories involving the German pow’s are really interesting. Farmers would hire them to work the farms because all the men were gone. German families would come pick them up for church and take them back after Sunday dinner. Quite well behaved and only two tried to escape. Didn’t see any for clear lake or Mason city, buddy holly crash site. You can do both in the same day. You should take a field trip and write a book.

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> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#):
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> the product they sell is probably the same or nearly the same as a branded gasoline.

My father delivered gas as a summer job in college. He sold the same stuff to all the stations. That was the '30s.

> [@LoudThunder](#):
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> the Sinclair Gas Logo had a Dinosaur

They had TV commercials that showed dinosaurs getting turned into oil.

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In the early sixties I had a Sinclair Dinosaur inflatable beach toy.

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> [@bing](#):
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> The stories involving the German pow’s are really interesting. Farmers would hire them to work the farms because all the men were gone

My father in law would have been thrilled to be in that prison camp. He was a German POW in an English prison camp near the Denmark/Germany border. They were underfed, overcrowded, and in filthy conditions. He was also a farm boy with dairy experience, and working on a farm and living n a dormitory and in a very safe environment would have been a dream come true for him.

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> [@LoudThunder](#):
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> Find a Sinclair Station Near You, this link is how I found the one in NJ. Besides finding them, the map can be used to avoid them… L 😄 L…
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> [https://www.sinclairoil.com/find-sinclair-station-near-you](https://www.sinclairoil.com/find-sinclair-station-near-you)

About 74 miles from me…

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