# Is a car sunroof one of the most overrated features? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 5, 2025, 8:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-a-car-sunroof-one-of-the-most-overrated-features/199001 "2025-02-05T20:00:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 1:23am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-a-car-sunroof-one-of-the-most-overrated-features/199001/122 "2025-02-13T01:23:30Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > I find the lack of basic comprehension in this decade distressing. You posted cryptic remarks, don’t be surprised if some folks don’t follow them. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 1:53am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-a-car-sunroof-one-of-the-most-overrated-features/199001/123 "2025-02-13T01:53:58Z")
> [@texases](#): > > You posted cryptic remarks, Nothing cryptic. Anyone in the prior century would have understood me. ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 2:15am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-a-car-sunroof-one-of-the-most-overrated-features/199001/124 "2025-02-13T02:15:15Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > Nothing cryptic. Anyone in the prior century would have understood me. Somehow I doubt that . ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 2:33am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-a-car-sunroof-one-of-the-most-overrated-features/199001/125 "2025-02-13T02:33:20Z")
You’ve loathed me since the day I registered in these forums. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 2:56am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-a-car-sunroof-one-of-the-most-overrated-features/199001/126 "2025-02-13T02:56:32Z")
> [@VDCdriver](#): > > Well, the Olds V8 was “related” to the Caddy V8, unlike the Buick V8. The first “Kettering” Olds and Caddy V8s were somewhat similar and released in the late 40s. Buick’s Nailhead V8 in '53. Chevy and Pontiac in '55. By the mid 60s those early designs were redesigned V8s of various sizes and none shared parts. Each had their quirks but the Chevy changed the least and lasted the longest. ---
**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 4:38am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-a-car-sunroof-one-of-the-most-overrated-features/199001/127 "2025-02-13T04:38:24Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > I was correcting which Starfire VDCdriver thought asemaster was referring to. To clarify, Mustang said he installed a sunroof in his 75 Starfire. I responded that, while meaning no offense to him or his car, that the Starfire name deserved a better car than a badge-engineered Monza. And later I said that some people might have had a hard time accepting that in 10 years time a car that started like this: ![starfire 1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/8/6/86b3b01bed2a34cd94a5e9f3463e17f300c4dc0e.jpeg) ended up like this: ![Starfire 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/f/2/f262992657531706456932e8099a6ede19898e45.jpeg) Once again, not a comment on Mustang’s taste or his need for a particular kind of car. More of a commentary of taking a car model and completely changing the image. Look at the difference between a 71 Challenger and an 81 Challenger. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 1:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-a-car-sunroof-one-of-the-most-overrated-features/199001/129 "2025-02-13T13:01:57Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > You’ve loathed me since the day I registered in these forums. Ask and ye shall receive. A little (well, a lot) less derision on your part would go a long way to receiving more pleasant responses. ---
**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 2:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-a-car-sunroof-one-of-the-most-overrated-features/199001/130 "2025-02-13T14:21:46Z")
So many instances of sins against humanity in car model changes that drag an iconic name through the mud. Another one- the Nova: Went from this- ![download](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/a/c/ac57452072a8b5eb5d861deeeac5799139cdb494.jpeg) To this- ![1976_Chevrolet_Nova_sedan_2.1.18](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/e/a/ea13f3fadc2fe12f711aeb67f64086d4222de5ca.jpeg) and then even more egregious- ![280px-1988_Chevrolet_Nova_liftback_when_new,_front_left](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/0/d/0d590c5b139fd9e446f0fba44cb324d2b7a3f3b7.jpeg) ![1988_Chevrolet_Nova_Hatchback_in_White,_Rear_Left](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/e/e/ee96ac5de108dab4be34184d9220270e900a35e2.png) ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 3:13pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-a-car-sunroof-one-of-the-most-overrated-features/199001/131 "2025-02-13T15:13:53Z")
It looks like the stance, wheels, and hood are not stock on the circa 1970 Nova. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 3:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-a-car-sunroof-one-of-the-most-overrated-features/199001/132 "2025-02-13T15:16:06Z")
> [@TwinTurbo](#): > > So many instances of sins against humanity in car model changes that drag an iconic name through the mud. Yup! I was privileged to have driven my uncle’s nearly-new '64 Imperial LeBaron, shortly after I got my driver’s license. It was this type of LeBaron: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/2/d/2dbfae63578fa3303ac6e151dd0e775a90a400a0.png) In later years, Chrysler assigned the LeBaron name to so many “lesser” models that some wags suggested they change the corporate name to LeBaron. Perhaps the most egregious examples were the poorly-disguised K-cars, like this mess: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/8/2/8244e3ff3fb42adf0cd9f9915e3393133112f27f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 3:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-a-car-sunroof-one-of-the-most-overrated-features/199001/133 "2025-02-13T15:59:57Z")
Shackles, wider wheels and tire, cowl hood, made it look bad a$$ though… I’m not a big fan of Chevy’s, but always liked the look of the late 60’s early 70’s Nova’s… But yeah, The Dart comes to mind also… Now I did drive/worked on a 80’s LeBaron back in the late 90’s that was quicker than the ZR1’s and whatever was the quick Mustangs of the same time in the 1/4 mile, anyway this thing had the engine sent to mother Mopar (2.2L) and was built, it was running 19.5 psi of boost and was stupid fast on the street, and was also lowered with all the top stuff of the day, this thing was crazy fast and handled like it was on rails (dads money lol)… It made the LeBaron name proud… ---
**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 4:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-a-car-sunroof-one-of-the-most-overrated-features/199001/134 "2025-02-13T16:01:44Z")
> [@TwinTurbo](#): > > So many instances of sins against humanity in car model changes At least the Mustang has come back from the malaise Mustang II. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 4:04pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-a-car-sunroof-one-of-the-most-overrated-features/199001/135 "2025-02-13T16:04:03Z")
> [@VDCdriver](#): > > Perhaps the most egregious examples were the poorly-disguised K-cars, like this mess: I knew several people who owned one of these. And at least 2 of them all had major rust in all the seams. Seems the factory missed the seam sealing process. How the heck that happens in a modern facotry is beyond me. They were throwaway cars. ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 4:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-a-car-sunroof-one-of-the-most-overrated-features/199001/136 "2025-02-13T16:39:59Z")
> [@asemaster](#): > > At least the Mustang has come back from the malaise Mustang II. Hey now, we wouldn’t have the beloved, for so many years, Mustang II front frame and suspension with R&P, if not for those dark days, for hot rods… other than that I agree lol… ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 6:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-a-car-sunroof-one-of-the-most-overrated-features/199001/137 "2025-02-13T18:00:39Z")
I didn’t write it before, but I like that earliest Nova best too. ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 6:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-a-car-sunroof-one-of-the-most-overrated-features/199001/138 "2025-02-13T18:53:37Z")
Not claiming the Mustang II was a great vehicle but we liked ours and made many long trips in it. Of course it is a fact that if a car is not good your memory might remember it being worse than it really was . If it was good your memory will also remenber as better than it was. ---
**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 8:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-a-car-sunroof-one-of-the-most-overrated-features/199001/139 "2025-02-13T20:27:10Z")
> [@davesmopar](#): > > Mustang II front frame and suspension with R&P, if not for those dark days, for hot rods True, we can thank Ford for supplying us with front and rear set-ups to be used in any number of hot rods. How many Lincoln Versailles rear ends (Ford 9 inch, narrow axles, disc brakes) are still rolling around out there? ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-a-car-sunroof-one-of-the-most-overrated-features/199001/140 "2025-02-13T20:56:06Z")
Just to chime in as long as we are way off topic, the girl I used to switch driving with for our 100 mile a day commute, bought a mustang Ii. It wasn’t bad but not good compared to my olds. On slippery roads though I did have some concerns but she was a good driver. I am to the point of going to need a car or two but it seems the more I hear, ford, Gm, are out. Toyota is near out and the remains brands hanging on by a thread. How did these major companies manage to make their brands so negative? Acura if it weren’t for the dang turbo four instead of a six. One thing that I’m overjoyed about is that we have a fort Bragg again. Not Braxtons but pfc Bragg. I was at Bragg when my wife informed me she was pregnant, so I have a soft spot in my heart for the place. On to fort hood. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 9:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-a-car-sunroof-one-of-the-most-overrated-features/199001/141 "2025-02-13T21:16:17Z")
> [@bing](#): > > Not Braxtons but pfc Bragg Yeah, right…and I have a bridge…anything to satisfy the racist backers with an excuse that it’s not ‘that’ Bragg. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 9:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-a-car-sunroof-one-of-the-most-overrated-features/199001/142 "2025-02-13T21:21:16Z")
> [@texases](#): > > Yeah, right…and I have a bridge…anything to satisfy the racist backers with an excuse that it’s not ‘that’ Bragg. But, aren’t US military bases _normally_ named after a PFC? Think of all the others that were also named after a PFC! What’s that? There aren’t any others? 😏 [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-a-car-sunroof-one-of-the-most-overrated-features/199001.md?page=6) [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/is-a-car-sunroof-one-of-the-most-overrated-features/199001.md?page=8)