# If you're stumped for a last-minute gift **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 24, 2022, 3:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-stumped-for-a-last-minute-gift/188123 "2022-12-24T15:38:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 3:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-stumped-for-a-last-minute-gift/188123/1 "2022-12-24T15:38:58Z")
… perhaps that someone special in your life would like this modest little vehicle. 😉 > **[The 2022 Rolls-Royce Black Badge Ghost Is Its Very Own Vibe](https://jalopnik.com/the-2022-rolls-royce-black-badge-ghost-is-its-very-own-1849911862)** > > The Black Badge Ghost is defined by extremes, but perhaps the most extreme part of all is the shift it causes in perception. ---
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 4:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-stumped-for-a-last-minute-gift/188123/2 "2022-12-24T16:20:42Z")
Well, the engine cover is quite nice. To me the exterior styling is uninspired, bring back the styling of the 60s. Interior nice, but again being an old fogey, prefer burl walnut over carbon fiber. ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 5:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-stumped-for-a-last-minute-gift/188123/3 "2022-12-24T17:05:29Z")
Interesting that parking lot operators assume ur hauling the artists for concert. I do agree that being seen in a $400k car gets you some slack. ---
**Author:** ![PintoKid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pintokid/32/45996_2.png) [@PintoKid](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PintoKid)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 5:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-stumped-for-a-last-minute-gift/188123/4 "2022-12-24T17:28:32Z")
> [@Cavell](#): > > $400k car I think the article mentions $650K. ---
**Author:** ![wentwest](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wentwest/32/6073_2.png) [@wentwest](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wentwest)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 5:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-stumped-for-a-last-minute-gift/188123/5 "2022-12-24T17:30:32Z")
Owning a car like this one is God’s way of telling you that you have too much money. ---
**Author:** ![TheWonderful90s](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/thewonderful90s/32/29584_2.png) [@TheWonderful90s](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TheWonderful90s)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 5:32pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-stumped-for-a-last-minute-gift/188123/6 "2022-12-24T17:32:46Z")
Or you had too much money. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-stumped-for-a-last-minute-gift/188123/7 "2022-12-24T17:37:15Z")
Is that $650,000 the starting price? Surely that can be run up with numerous options. ---
**Author:** ![bcohen2010](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@bcohen2010](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bcohen2010)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-stumped-for-a-last-minute-gift/188123/8 "2022-12-24T17:46:07Z")
If I was wealthy enough to afford a half-million-plus dollar car, I’d buy a $5k car, and put the rest into something which actually _makes_ money…like dividend-paying securities, or rental property. I remember my previous employer had a customer who I did a lot of work for, a surgeon who was worth millions of dollars and owned an impressive portfolio of rental properties. His own house was nice, but not opulent, probably worth around $400k at the time, and in the garage was a Plymouth Sundance and a Ford Aerostar van. I am not a wealthy doctor by any stretch of the imagination, but nothing shows off success like having the confidence to drive an old economy car, live in a reasonable but modest home, and resist the social pressure to spend money trying to impress others. ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-stumped-for-a-last-minute-gift/188123/9 "2022-12-24T17:49:59Z")
> [@bcohen2010](#): > > and resist the social pressure to spend money trying to impress others. We drive nice vehicles and have bought all of them because we wanted them . We also don’t care what anyone thinks about our choices . That means no peer pressure . Also when vehicle prices calm down we plan to upgrade and it will be something that you and George don’t approve of. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 6:06pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-stumped-for-a-last-minute-gift/188123/10 "2022-12-24T18:06:20Z")
> [@VOLVO-V70](#): > > We drive nice vehicles and have bought all of them because we wanted them . We also don’t care what anyone thinks about our choices . That means no peer pressure . +1 I buy a vehicle because it meets my needs–both practical and psychological–and because I can afford to do so without taking food off the table. I don’t particularly care what anyone else thinks of my choice in vehicles. > [@VOLVO-V70](#): > > we plan to upgrade and it will be something that you and George don’t approve of. I already did. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 6:06pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-stumped-for-a-last-minute-gift/188123/11 "2022-12-24T18:06:40Z")
> [@VOLVO-V70](#): > > it will be something that you and George don’t approve of. You mean something built in the 21st century? 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 6:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-stumped-for-a-last-minute-gift/188123/12 "2022-12-24T18:15:02Z")
**For those who prefer American Iron from the last century:** ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/f/9/f994ed24ca27f032596841644ffb3733e53e1fa3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![bcohen2010](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@bcohen2010](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bcohen2010)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 6:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-stumped-for-a-last-minute-gift/188123/13 "2022-12-24T18:22:24Z")
I never did understand the obsession people have with the first-generation Ford Mustang. My 1989 Dodge Aries is a better car in every way, offering better safety, reliability, performance, handling, and fuel efficiency. An economy car from the mid-2000’s is vastly superior still. And a Kia Rio or Hyundai Accent from the past few years would probably knock the socks off of any of these cars in all the attributes people care about (though I would not want one). ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 6:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-stumped-for-a-last-minute-gift/188123/14 "2022-12-24T18:25:43Z")
> [@bcohen2010](#): > > I never did understand the obsession people have with the first-generation Ford Mustang Most of the buyers of the 1st Generation Mustangs probably didn’t realize that they were buying a rebodied Falcon, with the same limitations that the Falcon had. Luckily, Ford did upgrade and improve the Mustang _many_ times since that original iteration. ---
**Author:** ![old\_mopar\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/6bbea6/32.png) [@old\_mopar\_guy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/old_mopar_guy)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 6:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-stumped-for-a-last-minute-gift/188123/15 "2022-12-24T18:41:35Z")
Someone needed to tell that doctor that there will be no pockets in his burial shroud. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-stumped-for-a-last-minute-gift/188123/16 "2022-12-24T18:47:44Z")
> [@old\_mopar\_guy](#): > > there will be no pockets in his burial shroud. That was one of my mother’s favorite expressions in her later years, and that helped to inspire me to live-out my remaining years in the manner that I desire. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 6:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-stumped-for-a-last-minute-gift/188123/17 "2022-12-24T18:57:50Z")
> [@bcohen2010](#): > > . My 1989 Dodge Aries is a better car in every way, offering better safety, reliability, performance, handling, and fuel efficiency. Compared to the lighter base 6 cylinder 1966 Mustang instead of the 69, it matches your 100mph top speed and 0 to 60 of 11 seconds. The cars weigh about the same. If equipped with 20 year newer radials, would handle as well if not better than your Aries. The Mustang is not as safe and requires more fuel than your Aries but sold far better. Reliability is arguable between the 2. The biggest dirrerence between the two is there are FAR more people who want a first gen Mustang than will ever want your Aries. ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 4:21am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-stumped-for-a-last-minute-gift/188123/18 "2022-12-25T04:21:18Z")
> [@Mustangman](#): > > The Mustang is not as safe and requires more fuel than your Aries but sold far better. The production numbers I see for 1964-1973 Mustangs are 2,979,081. Aries/Reliant; 2,105,059 plus millions of derivatives; New Yorker, E-Class, LeBaron, Caravelle, 400, and 600 are often viewed as K cars. Daytona, Laser, LeBaron GTS, Lancer, Shadow, Sundance, Acclaim and Spirit are based on the K car. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 4:30am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-stumped-for-a-last-minute-gift/188123/19 "2022-12-25T04:30:39Z")
Three things you should never do. Buy someone else a dog. Buy someone else a car. Or arrange a marriage for someone else. ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 2:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-stumped-for-a-last-minute-gift/188123/20 "2022-12-25T14:31:28Z")
GM commercial has guy surprising wife with dog. She ups him and gets him a new $70k truck. Just who the heck is driving it in commercial though? Did wifey buy truck with money? Whose money? [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-stumped-for-a-last-minute-gift/188123.md?page=2)