# If you're hankering for one of the "wonderful" cars of the '90s **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** ford\ **Created:** [July 15, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-hankering-for-one-of-the-wonderful-cars-of-the-90s/195363 "2024-07-15T18:18:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 8:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-hankering-for-one-of-the-wonderful-cars-of-the-90s/195363/21 "2024-07-16T20:17:28Z")
> [@texases](#): > > Jalopnik has a woefully inadequate coverage of tire pressure issues. Isn’t that a web site that advertises older cars for sale? Why would they have any involvement with tire pressure issues? If I was buying a used car, tire pressure issues would be near the bottom of the list of my purchase decision concerns. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 8:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-hankering-for-one-of-the-wonderful-cars-of-the-90s/195363/22 "2024-07-16T20:21:38Z")
No, Jalopnik is not a car sales site. I was joking about Chris’ interests in all things tire pressure related. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 9:04pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-hankering-for-one-of-the-wonderful-cars-of-the-90s/195363/23 "2024-07-16T21:04:55Z")
> [@texases](#): > > Jalopnik is not a car sales site +1 George might want to bookmark the Jalopnik site, and look at it occasionally for a variety of automotive-related articles. But, nary a word about the topic of tire pressure. > **[Jalopnik | Obsessed With The Culture Of Cars](https://jalopnik.com/)** > > Drive free or die. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 9:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-hankering-for-one-of-the-wonderful-cars-of-the-90s/195363/24 "2024-07-16T21:46:39Z")
> [@VDCdriver](#): > > But, it doesn’t have power windows, A/C, or key fobs, all of which are the bane of mankind… according to _some_ people. This comment seems a little unfair imho. Folks posting here should always feel welcome to express their opinions about which car options they like , and which they don’t. Just b/c someone here says they prefer a car without AC for themselves , that doesn’t mean they object to anyone else’s AC, or consider AC to be a bane. ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 10:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-hankering-for-one-of-the-wonderful-cars-of-the-90s/195363/25 "2024-07-16T22:09:44Z")
> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#): > > that doesn’t mean they object to anyone else’s AC, or consider AC to be a bane. If that is so then stop telling people asking for vehicle purchase help to avoid all those Gadgets that you seem to be against. ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-hankering-for-one-of-the-wonderful-cars-of-the-90s/195363/26 "2024-07-16T22:19:53Z")
The subject car has air conditioning and key fobs are available in the auto parts boutique. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/7/7/7756fd3ccce51e85f23cafe02bbc886af8fae764.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 10:22am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-hankering-for-one-of-the-wonderful-cars-of-the-90s/195363/27 "2024-07-17T10:22:17Z")
> [@texases](#): > > No, Jalopnik is not a car sales site. I was joking about > Chris’ interests in all things tire pressure related. And why assume what I’m searching for? Are you following me? > [@VDCdriver](#): > > Jalopnik site, and look at it occasionally for a variety of > automotive-related articles. But, nary a word about the > topic of tire pressure. Comes with the country I guess. ---
**Author:** ![FoDaddy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/fodaddy/32/717_2.png) [@FoDaddy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/FoDaddy)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 3:04pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-hankering-for-one-of-the-wonderful-cars-of-the-90s/195363/28 "2024-07-17T15:04:49Z")
Jalopnik has gone from “pretty good” , around decade (give or take a few years) or so ago, when they had good writers contributors and dealt almost exclusively with automotive content with occasional automotive-adjacent story. Now it’s a website that rarely has purely automotive content and instead will post any political/social story with only most tenuous connection to cars. The website is almost unusable without a ad-blocker or two running. It’s pretty sad to see what Jalopnik once was vs. what it’s become. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-hankering-for-one-of-the-wonderful-cars-of-the-90s/195363/29 "2024-07-17T15:09:08Z")
> [@FoDaddy](#): > > The website is almost unusable without a ad-blocker or two running. It’s pretty sad to see what Jalopnik once was vs. what it’s become. Much resulting from the demise of the parent Gawker Media, I’m sure. But the same could be said about a lot of automotive sites, this one included. Lots more ads here, and recent discussions have often become hard to spend time following. I like that Jalopnik casts a pretty wide net, some may not. ---
**Author:** ![TheWonderful90s](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/thewonderful90s/32/29584_2.png) [@TheWonderful90s](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TheWonderful90s)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 7:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-hankering-for-one-of-the-wonderful-cars-of-the-90s/195363/30 "2024-07-17T19:44:53Z")
> [@Mustangman](#): > > No airbags, no structure, no ABS, no power, No Thanks! Not only does it have no structure by today’s standards, but it only weighs 2400 pounds. Similar to a Toyota Yaris or Chevy Spark or Kia Rio today. If all the other cars on the road were sub compacts, then you could start to consider the 1993 Escort. If you wanted safety, Ford sold the Taurus. Some people don’t wear seat belts. In that case, none of the above really matters anyway. It gets 28MPG (25 city 33 highway). Originally listed as 32 (29 city 36 highway). Manual transmission of course. Disregarding safety, what other wagon available today can beat this? ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-hankering-for-one-of-the-wonderful-cars-of-the-90s/195363/31 "2024-07-17T20:00:37Z")
> [@TheWonderful90s](#): > > Disregarding safety, what other wagon available today can beat this? Corolla Cross 31/33 city/highway Corolla Cross Hybrid 45/38 city hybrid ---
**Author:** ![TheWonderful90s](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/thewonderful90s/32/29584_2.png) [@TheWonderful90s](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TheWonderful90s)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 8:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-hankering-for-one-of-the-wonderful-cars-of-the-90s/195363/32 "2024-07-17T20:10:53Z")
That’s an SUV! [kbb.com](http://kbb.com) lists the 2022 Corolla Cross as 25.5’^3 cargo volume compared to 66.9’^3 for the Escort wagon. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 8:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-hankering-for-one-of-the-wonderful-cars-of-the-90s/195363/33 "2024-07-17T20:31:47Z")
Alrighty then! What about a minivan? The 2024 Toyota Sienna 2WD gets 36 mpg for both city and highway. It has 33.5 cf of cargo space with the 3rd row used for seating. If you stow the back seats it has 75 cf of cargo space. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-hankering-for-one-of-the-wonderful-cars-of-the-90s/195363/34 "2024-07-17T20:39:26Z")
> [@TheWonderful90s](#): > > That’s an SUV! Since there are no new wagons to speak of, we’re stuck with either SUVs (and the Corolla Cross is more of a wagon than some heavy duty SUV) or minivans. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-hankering-for-one-of-the-wonderful-cars-of-the-90s/195363/35 "2024-07-17T20:47:45Z")
> [@TheWonderful90s](#): > > 2022 Corolla Cross as 25.5’^3 cargo volume compared to 66.9’^3 for the Escort wagon. It’s 30.6 ft3 for the Escort with the seat up, 67 ft3 with the seat down, comparable to the Corolla Cross’ 25 ft3/66 ft3. Practically identical. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-hankering-for-one-of-the-wonderful-cars-of-the-90s/195363/36 "2024-07-17T20:48:17Z")
> [@TheWonderful90s](#): > > what other wagon available today can beat this An Audi A6 wagon will beat the mileage and the acceleration. My A4 sedan will as well and it weighs 3700 lbs ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 8:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-hankering-for-one-of-the-wonderful-cars-of-the-90s/195363/37 "2024-07-17T20:52:26Z")
A Forester has the same mpgs as the Escort wagon and the same space. Again, more of a raised wagon than an “SUV”. ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 9:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-hankering-for-one-of-the-wonderful-cars-of-the-90s/195363/38 "2024-07-17T21:10:50Z")
I thought they were compact crossovers?? 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 9:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-hankering-for-one-of-the-wonderful-cars-of-the-90s/195363/39 "2024-07-17T21:16:29Z")
Yeah, that’s a good term for them. But it’s not ‘wagon’, and by gum he wants a ‘wagon’! ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 10:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-hankering-for-one-of-the-wonderful-cars-of-the-90s/195363/40 "2024-07-17T22:21:09Z")
Our Subaru Outback was called a Wagon for people who don’t like wagons . The Kia Soul is called a wagon also. [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-hankering-for-one-of-the-wonderful-cars-of-the-90s/195363.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-youre-hankering-for-one-of-the-wonderful-cars-of-the-90s/195363.md?page=3)