# If you own a 2020 to 2023 Acura or Honda **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** honda\ **Created:** [July 6, 2023, 5:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-you-own-a-2020-to-2023-acura-or-honda/191544 "2023-07-06T17:18:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 5:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-you-own-a-2020-to-2023-acura-or-honda/191544/1 "2023-07-06T17:18:01Z")
… you may be getting a recall notice regarding a potentially _very_ serious brake defect: > **[Honda Recalls 124,000 Vehicles Over Risk Of Brake Failure](https://jalopnik.com/honda-recalls-124-000-vehicles-over-risk-of-brake-failu-1850610532)** > > The brakes on several popular models may suddenly fail without warning. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 9:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-you-own-a-2020-to-2023-acura-or-honda/191544/2 "2023-07-06T21:01:04Z")
I heard a report on the radio news today (Thursday, 7.6.23) about a recall involving brake boosters, some sort of fastener failure. Maybe this is the same one? ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 9:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-you-own-a-2020-to-2023-acura-or-honda/191544/3 "2023-07-06T21:05:31Z")
I think that it is the same recall. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 1:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-you-own-a-2020-to-2023-acura-or-honda/191544/4 "2023-07-07T13:38:49Z")
Whew! We dodged a bullet on this one. One daughter has a 2019 CR-V and I another has a 2020 Pilot and neither is part of the recall. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 10:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-you-own-a-2020-to-2023-acura-or-honda/191544/5 "2023-07-07T22:49:16Z")
Have to wonder if the problem is defective fasteners, or the fasteners are ok, but just not tightened correctly? If the latter, I wonder if robots do the tightening? ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2023, 12:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-you-own-a-2020-to-2023-acura-or-honda/191544/6 "2023-07-08T12:54:41Z")
> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#): > > If the latter, I wonder if robots do the tightening? More than likely, that work is done by some type of robotic device. However, in a case like that, the actual problem lies with the person who programmed the robot. Ergo, a human-based error. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2023, 1:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/if-you-own-a-2020-to-2023-acura-or-honda/191544/7 "2023-07-08T13:24:13Z")
There are other possibilities. The bolts are probably tightened to a minimum torque and the measuring device on the wrench motor might need calibration.