# Hyundai Using Child Labor in Alabama Plant **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** hyundai\ **Created:** [July 25, 2022, 12:03am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/hyundai-using-child-labor-in-alabama-plant/185449 "2022-07-25T00:03:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Old-Days-Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7feea3/32.png) [@Old-Days-Rick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Old-Days-Rick)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2022, 11:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/hyundai-using-child-labor-in-alabama-plant/185449/43 "2022-07-26T23:16:40Z")
> [@bing](#): > > Some years ago I read a book on how the teamsters got a foot hold in the St. Paul transportation business. Complete with attempted murder. I have no illusions and understand why the guy was cremated never to be found again, even though still looking for his body. It can be rough but not my experience and only once did a Union guy remind me of his permit to carry, but we got along. I am searching for this book, by any chance do you recall the name? It sounds very interesting! ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 12:54am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/hyundai-using-child-labor-in-alabama-plant/185449/44 "2022-07-27T00:54:39Z")
My library is in disarray due to neglect but found it. Called “crossing Hoffa” a teamster story, by Steven j. Harper. Looks like 1954 but mine is not that old. Through the Minnesota historical society press through borealis books I seem to remember a girl at work had some connection, father, grandparent or something that sort of validated it. I rember the part about the guy driving his rig down hywy 61 and his brakes had been jimmied. On the same vein, “I heard you paint houses” by Charles Brandt is a good read on what happened to Hoffa. Supposedly death bed confession of a guy who was there. Some have discredited it but there is enough to make it believable. Like when they flew down the weapons to be used on jfk. Didn’t seem to fit until now with new info coming out. A lot of these are available used. I just bought one published by the u of m, on the 60s Minnesota music scene for half price. I hope they don’t flag this so I have to retype it again, but it does involve big trucks. ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 3:38am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/hyundai-using-child-labor-in-alabama-plant/185449/45 "2022-07-27T03:38:43Z")
An interview with Jimmy Hoffa will air on Thursday on the Dick Cavett show on the Decades channel. [Shows (decades.com)](https://decades.com/shows/the-dick-cavett-show) ---
**Author:** ![Old-Days-Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7feea3/32.png) [@Old-Days-Rick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Old-Days-Rick)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 4:04am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/hyundai-using-child-labor-in-alabama-plant/185449/46 "2022-07-27T04:04:51Z")
> [@bing](#): > > On the same vein, “I heard you paint houses” by Charles Brandt is a good read on what happened to Hoffa. Supposedly death bed confession of a guy who was there. Some have discredited it but there is enough to make it believable. Like when they flew down the weapons to be used on jfk. Didn’t seem to fit until now with new info coming out. Yes it was an excellent read, I enjoyed that book. Much of it seems plausible, then again who knows. I will try to locate a copy of the other book mentioned. I will read it during downtime in the dump truck. I will monitor the air pressure gauges as i read the book to make sure i have no air leaks and i stay on topic. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 4:18am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/hyundai-using-child-labor-in-alabama-plant/185449/47 "2022-07-27T04:18:25Z")
> [@Old-Days-Rick](#): > > I will try to locate a copy of the other book mentioned. I will read it during downtime in the dump truck. If you just google it, a used copy came up for about $5. I was just trying to see what was available. Then one of them was even downloadable for Kindle (I’ve got Nook), could of been the house painter though. I got them I think before Amazon or even Google maybe so might have just got them from the Historical Soc., don’t remember. At any rate of course the reviews now vary. Puzzle pieces really start to come together when you can link people together, but that’s for a different board. ---
**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 5:00am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/hyundai-using-child-labor-in-alabama-plant/185449/48 "2022-07-27T05:00:54Z")
It nimight interest you to know that there is no mandatory tome and one half for railroad workers, truckers or some others involved in transportation. Those that get it ,do so only by union contract or the generosity of their company. I was a teamster city driver first and got time and one half in most situations but when I became a teamster road driver, I was paid mileage for miles driven, straight time for loading, unloading, and dropping and hooking. Waiting time was paid only after the first hour and there was tons of time not paid for.Pre trip inspections of up to 16 pieces of equipment a day, filling out copious paperwork, sign in and sign in sheets to say nothing of the 14 hours they could hold you at a motel without pay on each days work. ---
**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 5:16am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/hyundai-using-child-labor-in-alabama-plant/185449/49 "2022-07-27T05:16:08Z")
THat attitude is fine when you are young and healthy and don’t have a large family to support. As you get older it gets increasingly harder to get hired for hobs involving physical work. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 12:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/hyundai-using-child-labor-in-alabama-plant/185449/50 "2022-07-27T12:31:20Z")
> [@Old-Days-Rick](#): > > Mike, how have they dealt with the loss of the good manufacturing jobs, have they stayed local or moved elsewhere? Most have retired. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 12:37pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/hyundai-using-child-labor-in-alabama-plant/185449/51 "2022-07-27T12:37:56Z")
> [@Mustangman](#): > > My uncle did nothing for 10 years because the union rules allowed him that. Union rules that helped to cripple the company. Back in the 70’s ALL GE Televisions were made at the GE plant in Liverpool NY (right outside Syracuse). For about a 2 year period each of the 5 (maybe 6) unions would go on strike. Their ONLY reason for the strike was to show which union was the most powerful. For that 2 year period GE TV division was only operational at full capacity for about 4 months. Management had enough and shut down the plant, laying off thousands of workers and moved the operation to KY with no unions. The US steel industry back in the 70’s and 80’s tried to automate their factories. The UNIONS refused to let them because of the perceived loss of jobs. When factories started closing the unions came BEGGING to management to save what few jobs were left. For most it was too late. Unions have a place, but they are NOT the answer to all the labor problems. ---
**Author:** ![woodyandsue\_176929](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ac91a4/32.png) [@woodyandsue\_176929](https://community.cartalk.com/u/woodyandsue_176929)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 10:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/hyundai-using-child-labor-in-alabama-plant/185449/52 "2022-07-28T22:39:49Z")
Name of the book, please. ! ---
**Author:** ![woodyandsue\_176929](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ac91a4/32.png) [@woodyandsue\_176929](https://community.cartalk.com/u/woodyandsue_176929)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 11:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/hyundai-using-child-labor-in-alabama-plant/185449/53 "2022-07-28T23:12:14Z")
> [@bing](#): > > On the same vein, “I heard you paint houses” by Charles Brandt is a good read on what happened to Hoffa. Supposedly death bed confession of a guy who was there. Some have discredited it but there is enough to make it believable. Like when they flew down the weapons to be used on jfk. Didn’t seem to fit until now with nedidnw info coming out. There was an article in this week’s paper about the death bed confession- the FBI? dug up the area to find the drum Hoffa was in, but they didn’t find him. NYT? ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 1:06am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/hyundai-using-child-labor-in-alabama-plant/185449/54 "2022-07-29T01:06:19Z")
Supposedly cremated in Michigan at a mob related funeral home. Didn’t even fill out a cremation certificate. Just no respect for regulations. Speaking of death bed confession, johnny roselli claimed he was one of the three jfk shooters. Found him in a barrel floating near Miami a couple days before he was due to testify. Who ya gonna believe? ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 11:13am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/hyundai-using-child-labor-in-alabama-plant/185449/55 "2022-07-29T11:13:05Z")
> [@woodyandsue\_176929](#): > > There was an article in this week’s paper about the death bed confession- the FBI? dug up the area to find the drum Hoffa was in, but they didn’t find him. NYT? Here is that article: > **[Search for Hoffa Under Jersey City Bridge Came Up Empty, F.B.I. Says...](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/21/nyregion/jimmy-hoffa-jersey-city-fbi.html)** > > The 1975 disappearance of the Teamsters leader has long been the subject of rumors and intrigue. [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/hyundai-using-child-labor-in-alabama-plant/185449.md?page=2)