# How to Work on a Car that Doesn't Have a Service Manual - New Toyota Vehicles **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Tags:** toyota, yaris\ **Created:** [March 19, 2020, 1:14am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-work-on-a-car-that-doesnt-have-a-service-manual-new-toyota-vehicles/161357 "2020-03-19T01:14:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2020, 3:59am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-work-on-a-car-that-doesnt-have-a-service-manual-new-toyota-vehicles/161357/21 "2020-03-19T03:59:49Z")
> [@bcohen2010](#): > > This change from printed service literature to online “subscription services” with a high monthly fee sounds like the racket that publishers of college textbooks are doing. the other regulars already mentioned that there are options . . . you can pay for just 2 - 3 days of information for a very reasonable rate. it’s usually about $20 - $25, depending on the vehicle manufacturer nobody’s forcing you to buy a monthly subscription there are other information websites . . . nobody’s forcing you to pay Toyota There’s identifix, alldata, mitchell, chilton, and I believe a few others ---
**Author:** ![kurtwm1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/13edae/32.png) [@kurtwm1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/kurtwm1)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2020, 4:05am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-work-on-a-car-that-doesnt-have-a-service-manual-new-toyota-vehicles/161357/22 "2020-03-19T04:05:02Z")
This service could get super expensive with hundreds of different brands and models out there. Subscription is for a single vehicle the website says. ---
**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2020, 4:07am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-work-on-a-car-that-doesnt-have-a-service-manual-new-toyota-vehicles/161357/23 "2020-03-19T04:07:13Z")
You might try your local library, when it re-oprns. Our county library has Chiltons you can access from your home computer and either Mitchells or Alldata that you can access from the computers at our downtown library ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2020, 4:27am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-work-on-a-car-that-doesnt-have-a-service-manual-new-toyota-vehicles/161357/24 "2020-03-19T04:27:28Z")
Things have been going digital, bought a cd from case for a vehicle 3 years ago, had to fire up an old laptop as it only worked on windows xp, yes it was I think $175 from case. ---
**Author:** ![jdmere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/jdmere/32/3002_2.png) [@jdmere](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jdmere)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2020, 5:43am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-work-on-a-car-that-doesnt-have-a-service-manual-new-toyota-vehicles/161357/25 "2020-03-19T05:43:42Z")
For simple things like lug nut torque, this might be helpful. Free and easy. [http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39590](http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39590) ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2020, 12:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-work-on-a-car-that-doesnt-have-a-service-manual-new-toyota-vehicles/161357/26 "2020-03-19T12:57:23Z")
> [@Nevada\_545](#): > > Lug nut torque spec is in the owners manual. +1 Sometimes that info isn’t located where you might expect to find it, but it is listed… somewhere… in the Owner’s Manual. In my manual, after I found the info, I wrote inside the back cover so that I wouldn’t have to search for it next time that I needed it. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-work-on-a-car-that-doesnt-have-a-service-manual-new-toyota-vehicles/161357/27 "2020-03-19T22:45:02Z")
> [@oldtimer-11](#): > > You might try your local library, when it re-oprns. Our county library has Chiltons you can access from your home computer Our city library also has Chilton, which you can access from home it’s not always the best, but it beats paying for a service manual or data subscription, I suppose ---
**Author:** ![circuitsmith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/circuitsmith/32/40376_2.png) [@circuitsmith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/circuitsmith)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 1:03am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-work-on-a-car-that-doesnt-have-a-service-manual-new-toyota-vehicles/161357/28 "2020-03-20T01:03:46Z")
I still have the Service Manual from my 1981 Accord. I can leaf through it, spot grimy finger prints, and reminisce about the (not so) good old days. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 3:46am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-work-on-a-car-that-doesnt-have-a-service-manual-new-toyota-vehicles/161357/29 "2020-03-20T03:46:20Z")
I like the paper manuals too but they do take up a lot of room and I just can’t bring myself to throw one away. I had one for my 68 Dart but gave it to the guy I car pooled with that had a Dodge. It was so clear and easy to read I sometimes wished I still had it for reference. Yeah I’ve paid over $200 though for GM manuals and I did buy an Acura manual for the 08, but I’m to the point where I’m not going to do that kind of work anymore or the dealer will cover it under warranty. I did buy a cheap $25 Chilton for the Pontiac but it is very very general and of limited value. One thing I have never figured out is why these Chilton books cover engine over-hauls? Why waste the space? Who is going to buy a Chilton to use as an over-haul reference? ---
**Author:** ![wentwest](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wentwest/32/6073_2.png) [@wentwest](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wentwest)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 4:01am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-work-on-a-car-that-doesnt-have-a-service-manual-new-toyota-vehicles/161357/30 "2020-03-20T04:01:07Z")
Lots of us like stuff printed on paper, for lots of reasons. Mostly I think its because that’s how we learned to read and looking at a screen just doesn’t work as well. But we are a fading population. I keep an old laptop in my garage and look stuff up. Try looking for a forum for your car or truck, and in that somewhere there’s a wiki of basic info. ---
**Author:** ![galant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/77aa72/32.png) [@galant](https://community.cartalk.com/u/galant)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 6:04am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-work-on-a-car-that-doesnt-have-a-service-manual-new-toyota-vehicles/161357/31 "2020-03-20T06:04:53Z")
When I was in CT our local library had alldata for free. You could print the relevant parts too. Here in LA, I haven’t seen them providing it. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-work-on-a-car-that-doesnt-have-a-service-manual-new-toyota-vehicles/161357/32 "2020-03-20T14:38:02Z")
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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-work-on-a-car-that-doesnt-have-a-service-manual-new-toyota-vehicles/161357/33 "2020-03-20T17:42:17Z")
There are many things you can do on a vehicle without a service manual. About the only torque spec I’d say is super critical is something like head bolts. Yes lug nuts are important, but you can be off a little on the torque…just make sure all the lug-nuts are torqued the same. The size of the bolt can get you in the torque ball-park spec. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-work-on-a-car-that-doesnt-have-a-service-manual-new-toyota-vehicles/161357/34 "2020-03-20T18:22:56Z")
I still don’t understand what the OP isn’t finding in their owners manual. I took a quick look at the 2019 Camry pdf from the Toyota site, took me 15 seconds to find the recommended lug nut torque. ---
**Author:** ![RandomTroll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/randomtroll/32/12184_2.png) [@RandomTroll](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RandomTroll)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 5:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-work-on-a-car-that-doesnt-have-a-service-manual-new-toyota-vehicles/161357/35 "2020-03-24T17:15:29Z")
> [@oldtimer-11](#): > > s. Our county library has Chiltons you can access from your home computer and either Mitchells or Alldata that you can access from the computers at our downtown library Same in Albuquerque. [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-work-on-a-car-that-doesnt-have-a-service-manual-new-toyota-vehicles/161357.md?page=1)