# How to track previous owners of the car without VIN number **URL:** \ **Category:** Buying/Selling\ **Tags:** ford\ **Created:** [October 22, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-track-previous-owners-of-the-car-without-vin-number/171469 "2020-10-22T15:37:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 9:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-track-previous-owners-of-the-car-without-vin-number/171469/22 "2020-10-22T21:54:42Z")
Legal in Russia? With Putin in charge? Whoops, here come the Russian hackers. Better watch my comments. ---
**Author:** ![ok4450](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ok4450](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ok4450)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 10:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-track-previous-owners-of-the-car-without-vin-number/171469/23 "2020-10-22T22:12:40Z")
I can’t help you on tracking the history down and the great odds are that due to the passage of time and conversion to data being entered into computers the U.S. history may simply not exist anymore. Many years ago (and according to the state patrol) someone mistakenly null and voided my traffic citation history by accident while converting over to updated computers so I went from Atrocious to Sterling with a single keystroke… That being said, that Torino is just knock 'em dead gorgeous and then some. As a footnote, a guy who lives in my neck of the woods has a Gran Torino just like the one in the Eastwood movie. ---
**Author:** ![old\_mopar\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/6bbea6/32.png) [@old\_mopar\_guy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/old_mopar_guy)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 11:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-track-previous-owners-of-the-car-without-vin-number/171469/24 "2020-10-22T23:26:06Z")
Beautiful (said about a Torino)? I don’t think so. ---
**Author:** ![gmallan55\_149168](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@gmallan55\_149168](https://community.cartalk.com/u/gmallan55_149168)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 1:53am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-track-previous-owners-of-the-car-without-vin-number/171469/25 "2020-10-23T01:53:06Z")
Even if you find the prior owner (or owners), they are under no obligation to supply that information. They may, but they don’t have to. ---
**Author:** ![wolyrobb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wolyrobb/32/45497_2.png) [@wolyrobb](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wolyrobb)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 2:58am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-track-previous-owners-of-the-car-without-vin-number/171469/26 "2020-10-23T02:58:07Z")
Normally you could try getting a Marti report on this car but from looking at the list they don’t have records for the factory that this car came out of. Would have told you which dealer the car was originally invoiced to. Among many other details. ---
**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 3:18am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-track-previous-owners-of-the-car-without-vin-number/171469/27 "2020-10-23T03:18:34Z")
The 11 place number and lette rcombo you provided IS the VIN. It did not go to 17 places until later. ---
**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 10:43am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-track-previous-owners-of-the-car-without-vin-number/171469/28 "2020-10-23T10:43:02Z")
> [@old\_mopar\_guy](#): > > Beautiful (said about a Torino)? I don’t think so. This is why you never ask other people if they think your kid is cute. 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Alexander-Aleshin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@Alexander-Aleshin](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Alexander-Aleshin)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 3:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-track-previous-owners-of-the-car-without-vin-number/171469/29 "2020-10-23T15:49:36Z")
Yes, he did buy it restorted (restorted in 2009), before it was silver ![photo_2020-10-22_23-00-17](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/1/0/10e4afabfbf3a052e56019756490c21a011c0d27.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Alexander-Aleshin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@Alexander-Aleshin](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Alexander-Aleshin)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-track-previous-owners-of-the-car-without-vin-number/171469/30 "2020-10-23T16:14:09Z")
Man, I don’t like the Emperor of Holly Terra as well, but let’s not make red alert only because I’m Russian, this is car talk, not political ---
**Author:** ![Alexander-Aleshin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@Alexander-Aleshin](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Alexander-Aleshin)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-track-previous-owners-of-the-car-without-vin-number/171469/31 "2020-10-23T16:14:51Z")
Marti report? Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Alexander-Aleshin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@Alexander-Aleshin](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Alexander-Aleshin)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-track-previous-owners-of-the-car-without-vin-number/171469/32 "2020-10-23T16:35:40Z")
Yeah, highly likely that I wouldn’t find info about previous owners, but maybe I find something more about first seller organisation or other details ---
**Author:** ![Alexander-Aleshin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@Alexander-Aleshin](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Alexander-Aleshin)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 2:35pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-track-previous-owners-of-the-car-without-vin-number/171469/33 "2020-10-25T14:35:43Z")
Hi! Can’t reach MartiAuto now (and Kevin as well via Fb), but where I can find a list of factories to check if they have Lorain Assembly in it? Thank you ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 2:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-track-previous-owners-of-the-car-without-vin-number/171469/34 "2020-10-25T14:54:48Z")
I guess I am missing the point here . I can see the use of a Marti Report that shows how the vehicle came from the factory compared to how it is now. As for who owned it even if that was obtainable ( doubtful ) unless it was owned by some well know celebrity not really going to impress someone. The Lorain , Ohio plant closed in 2005 so what do you mean by a list of factories ? ---
**Author:** ![Alexander-Aleshin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@Alexander-Aleshin](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Alexander-Aleshin)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 4:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-track-previous-owners-of-the-car-without-vin-number/171469/35 "2020-10-25T16:44:32Z")
MartiAuto is an official agent of Ford company and they can give us some Assembly information for a fee. That means that they have a list of Ford factories and access to their databases. The question is if they have database of closed factories as Lorain Assembly Plant. What can give us Marti Report as I see: How many cars of Torino was made in that plant, how original the car is, the name of the first car dealer etc. ---
**Author:** ![wolyrobb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wolyrobb/32/45497_2.png) [@wolyrobb](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wolyrobb)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-track-previous-owners-of-the-car-without-vin-number/171469/36 "2020-10-25T19:24:33Z")
This car was made at the Atlanta factory. Not sure what record’s they’ll have. Possibly Marti can reproduce the window sticker (included in the Elite report for about $200u.s.) but they need a lot of lead time to be able to do so. You’d at least know where the car was originally sent to from the factory. ---
**Author:** ![Beancounter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/59ef9b/32.png) [@Beancounter](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Beancounter)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 7:45pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-track-previous-owners-of-the-car-without-vin-number/171469/37 "2020-10-25T19:45:55Z")
Just a wild guess but I’ve had some luck with other manufacturers starting with the engine block number then tracing it through the build sheet, etc. . Of course that assumes a whole lot including that it’s the original engine. But yeah that’s a nice looking car. ---
**Author:** ![Alexander-Aleshin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@Alexander-Aleshin](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Alexander-Aleshin)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 7:56am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-track-previous-owners-of-the-car-without-vin-number/171469/38 "2020-10-26T07:56:46Z")
> [@Alexander-Aleshin](#): > > 1A35H129342 Atlanta? You mean 1A35H129342 this VIN? It’s just an example, like type of. The VIN of my friend’s car starts from 1H33. Thanks for your help! ---
**Author:** ![Alexander-Aleshin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@Alexander-Aleshin](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Alexander-Aleshin)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 7:59am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-track-previous-owners-of-the-car-without-vin-number/171469/39 "2020-10-26T07:59:00Z")
Yeah, I thought that it should be working this way, but the car is too old for this, maybe. Thanks! [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-track-previous-owners-of-the-car-without-vin-number/171469.md?page=1)