# How to not get shot when pulled over by Police **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 21, 2017, 2:30am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-not-get-shot-when-pulled-over-by-police/105147 "2017-06-21T02:30:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Rod-Knox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Rod-Knox](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rod-Knox)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-not-get-shot-when-pulled-over-by-police/105147/21 "2017-06-22T16:19:44Z")
Yes… Quite troubling. ---
**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 4:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-not-get-shot-when-pulled-over-by-police/105147/22 "2017-06-22T16:27:17Z")
So smoking pot is now punishable by summary execution? How about we ask cops to wait until they see a weapon before shooting someone SEVEN FREAKIN’ TIMES!!! ---
**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 5:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-not-get-shot-when-pulled-over-by-police/105147/23 "2017-06-22T17:40:08Z")
> [@bing](#): > > Regardless BLM will continue to riot unless they hang people first without a trial just like they used to do. Before you take issue with BLM, think about what those letters stand for: black lives matter. They’re **not** saying other lives _don’t_ matter. They’re **not** saying black lives matter _more_ than others, they’re just saying they matter at all. Is that something you _really_ want to take issue with? If so, that puts you in some pretty disgusting company. I join you in condemning those who riot, but I will not allow you to condemn an organization that has taken a stand against rioting, especially when all the organization is asking is that black lives matter. They’re not asking for much, and if what they’re asking is too much for you to handle, than the organization isn’t the problem, you are. Do me a favor and prove you’re a decent human being by saying it with me: “black lives matter.” If that’s too tough, try saying “all lives matter.” Either would do. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-not-get-shot-when-pulled-over-by-police/105147/24 "2017-06-22T17:46:51Z")
> [@Whitey](#): > > Before you take issue with BLM, think about what those letters stand for: black lives matter. There’s a reason for the BLM movement…I wish there wasn’t a reason…but there is. > **[Here's A Timeline Of Unarmed Black People Killed By Police Over Past Year](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/nicholasquah/heres-a-timeline-of-unarmed-black-men-killed-by-police-over)** > > From Arizona to New York, the cases have added to national outrage over deadly force used by police. There are many area’s in this country where blacks are treated differently then Whites. It’s a fact - get use to it. I’ve seen it. Too bad many people who say All Lives Matter - really mean - All White Lives matter. ---
**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 6:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-not-get-shot-when-pulled-over-by-police/105147/25 "2017-06-22T18:22:44Z")
…and when you see something like this, where we see police give a white man with his hand on his gun unending patience, it really highlights the problem. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/2X/3/3ddc8672d5569198864e786f0dfe8a21a8af97a3.jpg) Also consider this: After shooting Philando Castile, what did Jeronimo Yanez do? Did he administer first aid? Why wouldn’t he? The only reason I can think of is that Yanez would rather face two living witnesses than three. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 6:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-not-get-shot-when-pulled-over-by-police/105147/26 "2017-06-22T18:29:59Z")
Well in further explanation to those that are disturbed and shocked, you need to remember that it was only a couple miles from the location of the shooting, that BLM paraded down a main road chanting “pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon”. Over and over and over again. It made national news prior to the chants in New York of “what do we want? dead cops. When do we want it? Now”. You cannot ignore that has some impact and creates a heightened level of fear from the police when they are making a stop in the same area. You just can’t deny the consequences of these actions. Secondly, you either believe in the legal system or you don’t. Too often these groups have already decided what the verdict should be before any trial and review of the evidence, and then riot if the result is not what they wanted. Yes they closed down I 94 that same night because they didn’t like the verdict. This is anarchy and ironic since this is what used to happen in the south. Wake up folks. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 6:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-not-get-shot-when-pulled-over-by-police/105147/27 "2017-06-22T18:41:13Z")
> [@bing](#): > > that BLM paraded down a main road chanting “pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon”. And you do know that those were NOT the feelings or views of the BLM movement, but a few individuals. Judging a whole group of people by a short observation of a few individuals is not very smart and down right WRONG. ---
**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 7:03pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-not-get-shot-when-pulled-over-by-police/105147/28 "2017-06-22T19:03:44Z")
Judging a group by the actions of a few happens to be the definition of prejudice. Coincidence? ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 7:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-not-get-shot-when-pulled-over-by-police/105147/29 "2017-06-22T19:09:54Z")
> [@Whitey](#): > > Judging a group by the actions of a few happens to be the definition of prejudice. Coincidence? The BLM movement doesn’t even judge ALL cops based on the few that have MURDERED UNARMED Africans. They know that most cops are good and try to do the right thing. ---
**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 7:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-not-get-shot-when-pulled-over-by-police/105147/30 "2017-06-22T19:25:19Z")
> [@MikeInNH](#): > > They know that most cops are good and try to do the right thing. …and I couldn’t possibly agree more. There is simply no excuse for handing someone a badge and a gun without first training them in the use of de-escalation tactics and other non-lethal police tactics. Clearly, there are police departments, such as the Dallas, TX Police Department, where officers are trained to not kill unarmed civilians, and there are good police officers who don’t put seven bullets into a man without seeing him brandish a weapon first. The ones who kill unarmed civilians and then don’t even bother trying to administer first aid are scum of the earth who give the good ones a bad name. ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 7:33pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-not-get-shot-when-pulled-over-by-police/105147/31 "2017-06-22T19:33:11Z")
> [@Whitey](#): > > The ones who kill unarmed civilians and then don’t even bother trying to administer first aid are scum of the earth who give the good ones a bad name. I think there are legal guidelines that require the officer who shot the person stay away from the victim and someone else administer first aid. That was mentioned in the Tulsa, OK case of Betty Shelby. Carolyn is going to shut this down and probably should. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 7:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-not-get-shot-when-pulled-over-by-police/105147/32 "2017-06-22T19:44:31Z")
And judging police nation-wide by the actions of maybe 1% is also pre-judging. Of course no one here pre-judges groups such as car dealers, IT people, corporations, mechanics, English teachers, and so on. Everyone pre-judges based on their world view and experiences whether you want to admit it or not. The idea is not to allow that to blind you to reality or new circumstances. I guess you didn’t pay much attention to the police station in North Minneapolis pretty much taken over and held hostage pre-judging another incident prior to trial or investigation. Riots in the streets rather than rule of law just like back in the 60s. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 7:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-not-get-shot-when-pulled-over-by-police/105147/33 "2017-06-22T19:54:46Z")
> [@bing](#): > > And judging police nation-wide by the actions of maybe 1% is also pre-judging. Who’s doing that? I’m sure there are some individuals, but I don’t see a whole group doing that. And saying that these individuals may be doing it doesn’t justify it. Bing - you’re the one’s making generalizations…not me or Whitey. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 7:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-not-get-shot-when-pulled-over-by-police/105147/34 "2017-06-22T19:56:40Z")
Another generalization. You have never been wrong. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-not-get-shot-when-pulled-over-by-police/105147/35 "2017-06-22T20:15:13Z")
> [@bing](#): > > Another generalization. You have never been wrong. Nice try. Deflect all you want. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 8:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-not-get-shot-when-pulled-over-by-police/105147/36 "2017-06-22T20:30:51Z")
OK, cheap shot but I was just waiting to see if you would change your mind about the value of English teachers versus math teachers. For the hours put in, it wouldn’t surprise me if English teachers were around the $15 an hour level whereas math teachers have a home life after school. Yeah maybe another deflection but you gotta admit you don’t change your mind very often. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 8:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-not-get-shot-when-pulled-over-by-police/105147/37 "2017-06-22T20:41:22Z")
> [@bing](#): > > OK, cheap shot but I was just waiting to see if you would change your mind about the value of English teachers versus math teachers. Now you’re taking what I said and complete twisting it. Again nice try. I NEVER ONE said anything despairingly against English teachers. The ONLY point I made was there were lot more of them to choose from. Good math teachers were much harder to find. Nothing more. You do realize that other people besides you and me read this…and know exactly what I’m saying. It’s all for anyone with an IQ over 90 to read and understand. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 9:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-not-get-shot-when-pulled-over-by-police/105147/38 "2017-06-22T21:05:49Z")
Well I think I’m over 90 but I dunno, I’d have to check. Maybe that’s my problem but I just got the distinct impression you were insulting my wife. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 9:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-not-get-shot-when-pulled-over-by-police/105147/39 "2017-06-22T21:24:04Z")
> [@Whitey](#): > > Before you take issue with BLM, think about what those letters stand for: black lives matter. They’re not saying other lives don’t matter. They’re not saying black lives matter more than others, they’re just saying they matterl It never ceases to astound me that _some_ people (with obvious prejudices that they don’t want to acknowledge) take that simple statement–_Black Lives Matter_–and somehow interpret it to mean that other lives _don’t_ matter. 😒 ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 9:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-not-get-shot-when-pulled-over-by-police/105147/40 "2017-06-22T21:24:21Z")
My only point about English teachers is that there are a lot more of them. The tech industry is great competition for math and science teachers. Why teach math when you can get a job in the tech field at 3-4 times the salary. Some schools are now doing what the public sector is…paying employees based on supply and demand. There are less math and science teachers to pick from so they getting paid more. In the public sector there are far more computer science jobs so salary is going up. The companies that get the crème of the crop pay more. It’s simple. If I insulted anyone it’s the Math and Science teachers who have degrees in English and History teaching our kids Math and Science. Those school districts (like mine) don’t want to pay more then the average salary to get the qualified teachers…so we loose. [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-not-get-shot-when-pulled-over-by-police/105147.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-to-not-get-shot-when-pulled-over-by-police/105147.md?page=3)