# How soon will it be before they "down-size" a Gallon of Gasoline? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 26, 2022, 1:57am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-soon-will-it-be-before-they-down-size-a-gallon-of-gasoline/184869 "2022-06-26T01:57:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 1:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-soon-will-it-be-before-they-down-size-a-gallon-of-gasoline/184869/308 "2025-12-07T13:48:14Z")
Yeah, I win, got the 300th post. When will I receive my prize? ---
**Author:** ![TheWonderful90s](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/thewonderful90s/32/29584_2.png) [@TheWonderful90s](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TheWonderful90s)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 1:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-soon-will-it-be-before-they-down-size-a-gallon-of-gasoline/184869/309 "2025-12-07T13:59:44Z")
> [@LoudThunder](#): > > What are you talking about that the device does not list the size or capacity? USB flash drives. A 64GB is really “64GB or smaller” once the fine print that says “actual user storge less” is taken in to account. Currently the products from the name brands are no more than 5% less, but there is nothing stopping this number from growing over time. edit: If it’s possible to sell flash drives that are smaller than advertised, then it’s possible with a gallon of gasoline too, isn’t it? Imagine switching the units to metric and then converting back to gallons, with rounding. Then changing the price because the gasoline additives are separate, and getting everyone used to that. There are a few tricks they could do. They’re already doing it with Ethanol to some extent, as I believe someone mentioned. That’s a \>4% reduction in economy right there on most vehicles with 10% ethanol. ---
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-soon-will-it-be-before-they-down-size-a-gallon-of-gasoline/184869/310 "2025-12-07T14:02:39Z")
My guess, 90% of users don’t care. ---
**Author:** ![TheWonderful90s](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/thewonderful90s/32/29584_2.png) [@TheWonderful90s](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TheWonderful90s)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 2:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-soon-will-it-be-before-they-down-size-a-gallon-of-gasoline/184869/311 "2025-12-07T14:05:57Z")
And for the 10%, 95% don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 2:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-soon-will-it-be-before-they-down-size-a-gallon-of-gasoline/184869/312 "2025-12-07T14:07:49Z")
Knowing anything, about any subject, is sooo last century, sadly. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 2:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-soon-will-it-be-before-they-down-size-a-gallon-of-gasoline/184869/313 "2025-12-07T14:55:37Z")
> [@texases](#): > > I take it you’re in a warm area, I’d hate to have an icy spot in winter. Most states here in the North East you can’t drain into streets or driveways (which could potentially drain into the street). ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 2:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-soon-will-it-be-before-they-down-size-a-gallon-of-gasoline/184869/314 "2025-12-07T14:57:03Z")
> [@TheWonderful90s](#): > > If it’s possible to sell flash drives that are smaller than advertised, then it’s possible with a gallon of gasoline too, isn’t it? HUH? That’s an extremely absurd comparison. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 3:37pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-soon-will-it-be-before-they-down-size-a-gallon-of-gasoline/184869/315 "2025-12-07T15:37:03Z")
> [@TheWonderful90s](#): > > USB flash drives. A 64GB is really “64GB or smaller” once the fine print that says “actual user storge less” is taken in to account. On and on you go with this nonsense. That flash drive has a 64GB chip, with minor losses for formatting. It has always been this way, nothing new, nothing nefarious. ---
**Author:** ![cdaquila](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cdaquila/32/18089_2.png) [@cdaquila](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cdaquila)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 3:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-soon-will-it-be-before-they-down-size-a-gallon-of-gasoline/184869/316 "2025-12-07T15:44:23Z")
off the grid yesterday and things took a turn. Any chance you can get somewhat more on track? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-soon-will-it-be-before-they-down-size-a-gallon-of-gasoline/184869/317 "2025-12-07T17:11:17Z")
What wavelength laser do they use to etch 3-nm traces on a wafer? Must be EUV or x-rays. I worked with SVG just before ASML bought them. They were just getting into UV lithography and didn’t understand molecular contamination. We had decades of experience in aerospace instruments. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 8:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-soon-will-it-be-before-they-down-size-a-gallon-of-gasoline/184869/318 "2025-12-07T20:05:59Z")
> [@texases](#): > > On and on you go with this nonsense. That flash drive has a 64GB chip, with minor losses for formatting. It has always been this way, nothing new, nothing nefarious. We can go back 50 years to removable disk-drives. Unformatted 50mb drive when formatted for the MVC operating system dropped it down to 45mb. Same disk from same manufacturer formatted to TOPS-10 the formatted drive dropped down to 47mb. For RSX-11m it dropped to only 48mb. ---
**Author:** ![TheWonderful90s](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/thewonderful90s/32/29584_2.png) [@TheWonderful90s](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TheWonderful90s)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 8:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-soon-will-it-be-before-they-down-size-a-gallon-of-gasoline/184869/319 "2025-12-07T20:25:41Z")
Somebody could start sellingof non ethanol pure gasoline in quantities of 0.96 of one gallon due to it having the equivalent amount of usable energy, and advertise the price accordingly. It’s not really even a dishonest thing to do. Problem is, the 10% ethanol stations would start doing it too, and there we would have it, a down-sized gallon! I wish gasbuddy would do a correction for the ethanol gasoline on their price maps. They already round down the 0.009 which I think is dishonest. ---
**Author:** ![LoudThunder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/loudthunder/32/27769_2.png) [@LoudThunder](https://community.cartalk.com/u/LoudThunder)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 9:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-soon-will-it-be-before-they-down-size-a-gallon-of-gasoline/184869/320 "2025-12-07T21:50:14Z")
> [@TheWonderful90s](#): > > If it’s possible to sell flash drives that are smaller than advertised, then it’s possible with a gallon of gasoline too, isn’t it? Imagine switching the units to metric and then converting back to gallons, with rounding. The size of a gallon of gas is governed by federal and state laws, primarily through the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) Handbook 44 and your state’s Weights & Measures agencies. Both entities (Federal and State) define a U.S. gallon as 231 cubic inches (or 3.785 liters) at a standard temperature (59° and 29.92 in/Hg) to ensure the pumps are accurate and fuel quality/blending standards are all met via regulations issued by the EPA. This helps to prevent fraud and maintain consistency, with specific rules for pump labeling and blending (like E15)… All of which is enforced at the state level. But until AI Takes over the “New EPA” (Electronic Protection Agency), I doubt there will be any standard measure of Bits, Bytes, and Giga-thingamabob… 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Old-Days-Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7feea3/32.png) [@Old-Days-Rick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Old-Days-Rick)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 12:53am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-soon-will-it-be-before-they-down-size-a-gallon-of-gasoline/184869/321 "2025-12-08T00:53:38Z")
> [@texases](#): > > Nope, there is 64 GB of memory, a small part of which is used for system bookkeeping. What is so hard to understand? Its always that way, even on phones going back to the first computers. ---
**Author:** ![Old-Days-Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7feea3/32.png) [@Old-Days-Rick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Old-Days-Rick)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 12:55am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-soon-will-it-be-before-they-down-size-a-gallon-of-gasoline/184869/322 "2025-12-08T00:55:59Z")
Its kind of like BHP vs Wheel horsepower. Some of the horses get used running things. ---
**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 1:24am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-soon-will-it-be-before-they-down-size-a-gallon-of-gasoline/184869/323 "2025-12-08T01:24:51Z")
> [@jtsanders](#): > > What wavelength laser do they use to etch 3-nm traces on a wafer? Must be EUV or x-rays. It’s EUV produced by vaporizing tin droplets using a combination of lasers to first expand the tin droplet and then vaporize it- as it falls from a dispensing apparatus!. This produces EUV light used in the lithography stage. This is already reaching the extent of its capability and next generation needs a completely different approach. I can’t say much more about what that entails… ---
**Author:** ![TheWonderful90s](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/thewonderful90s/32/29584_2.png) [@TheWonderful90s](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TheWonderful90s)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 1:35am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-soon-will-it-be-before-they-down-size-a-gallon-of-gasoline/184869/324 "2025-12-08T01:35:23Z")
> [@Old-Days-Rick](#): > > Its always that way, even on phones going back to the first computers. Show me. . ---
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 11:32am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-soon-will-it-be-before-they-down-size-a-gallon-of-gasoline/184869/325 "2025-12-08T11:32:46Z")
> [@TheWonderful90s](#): > > Somebody could start sellingof non ethanol pure gasoline in quantities of 0.96 of one gallon due to it having the equivalent amount of usable energy, and advertise the price accordingly. It’s not really even a dishonest thing to do. Problem is, the 10% ethanol stations would start doing it too, and there we would have it, a down-sized gallon! Please, no! That will my gas buying decisions more problematic 😀 My car **recommends 93 octane** but allows the use of 87 octane. When I fill up I get the 90 octane non-ethanol gas if it is lower price than the 93 octane, ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 1:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-soon-will-it-be-before-they-down-size-a-gallon-of-gasoline/184869/326 "2025-12-08T13:28:56Z")
> [@TheWonderful90s](#): > > Somebody could start sellingof non ethanol pure gasoline in quantities of 0.96 of one gallon due to it having the equivalent amount of usable energy, and advertise the price accordingly. Actually NO. Every state I’ve lived in has a department of weights and measures that test gas pumps. That’s NOT to say some gas stations don’ try to cheat you or there’s a problem with a pump. Years ago, I filled up at a station, and it dispensed 17 gallons into my 15-gallon tank. That was the last time I bought gas from them. ---
**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 1:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-soon-will-it-be-before-they-down-size-a-gallon-of-gasoline/184869/327 "2025-12-08T13:40:44Z")
I can see it now. Just as deceptive as those calorie specifications on food products: Joe’s Gasoline Emporium Regular $0.99 (servings per gallon = 3) 🤣 [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-soon-will-it-be-before-they-down-size-a-gallon-of-gasoline/184869.md?page=15) [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-soon-will-it-be-before-they-down-size-a-gallon-of-gasoline/184869.md?page=17)