# How do I remove these frozen bolts? **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Tags:** outback, subaru\ **Created:** [September 4, 2013, 3:04am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-do-i-remove-these-frozen-bolts/81203 "2013-09-04T03:04:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ryC4E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c0e974/32.png) [@ryC4E](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ryC4E)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 3:04am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-do-i-remove-these-frozen-bolts/81203/1 "2013-09-04T03:04:44Z")
I’m trying to remove 2 bolts at the bottom of the engine (so the only way to access them is from under the car) but they’re completely stuck and one of them is stripped. I don’t have much leverage to try and cut them with a chisel and I’m not sure how else to do it. Any ideas/suggestions? Just to reiterate the car is very low to the ground so even with a jack (the one that I have anyway) there’s not much space. ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 3:25am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-do-i-remove-these-frozen-bolts/81203/2 "2013-09-04T03:25:31Z")
PB blaster for both bolts and a pipe wrench might work on the stripped one. ---
**Author:** ![Harland](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85f322/32.png) [@Harland](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Harland)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 3:47am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-do-i-remove-these-frozen-bolts/81203/3 "2013-09-04T03:47:40Z")
Lots of PB spray, if you can heat them with a torch. As a person whos broken a few bolts my best advice if they are small (like tranny pan bolts, though any bolt in general) is loosen a bit and if they get tight turn them back in a ways then loosen again. Might take a while but well worth the time. If there is enough space for a socket wrench PVC pipe can add leverage. ---
**Author:** ![Cougar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cougar/32/21348_2.png) [@Cougar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cougar)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 4:38am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-do-i-remove-these-frozen-bolts/81203/4 "2013-09-04T04:38:48Z")
There are sockets made that will work on rounded off heads of bolts. They make contact on the flat portion of the head instead of the corners that can get stripped. You might have to get some jack stands so you can get the car raised and get better access to the problem. You should be able to rent some. ---
**Author:** ![Harland](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85f322/32.png) [@Harland](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Harland)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 4:49am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-do-i-remove-these-frozen-bolts/81203/5 "2013-09-04T04:49:33Z")
Kuddos @Cougar, just about forgot about those. They are also sold at parts stores not to expensive to buy if I remember right., I received a set for xmas a few years ago. ---
**Author:** ![art1966](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/77aa72/32.png) [@art1966](https://community.cartalk.com/u/art1966)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 12:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-do-i-remove-these-frozen-bolts/81203/6 "2013-09-04T12:36:37Z")
DO NOT WORK UNDER THE CAR SUPPORTED ONLY BY THE JACK! Yes, all cap’s – I’m shouting. We want you to live and be able to post back about how you solved the problem. Get and use proper jackstands (and chock the wheels that are on the ground). After that, decide which approach to use on the bolts. (If you are using jackstands, but the jack doesn’t go high enough, then slip some substantial support under the jack (e.g., some pieces of 2x10 lumber) or get a different jack (e.g., a bottle jack).) Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![CapriRacer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/capriracer/32/22_2.png) [@CapriRacer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/CapriRacer)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 2:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-do-i-remove-these-frozen-bolts/81203/7 "2013-09-04T14:50:13Z")
2 thoughts: 1. Yes, what Art said. Fully support the vehicle and make sure it is NOT going to fall off the jack stands. It is amazing how much force you can put on a wrench. 2. I’ve tried several products over the years and PB Blaster seems to work the best - along with Patience. My 2 biggest weapons are PB and Patience - and a breaker bar. My 3 best weapons are … ---
**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 5:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-do-i-remove-these-frozen-bolts/81203/8 "2013-09-04T17:05:28Z")
A breaker bar and some penetrating oil have helped me get out stubborn bolts. When you shop for a breaker bar, the longer ones give you more leverage, but make sure the one you get isn’t so long that you don’t have room to use it. ---
**Author:** ![Caddyman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/caddyman/32/23_2.png) [@Caddyman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Caddyman)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-do-i-remove-these-frozen-bolts/81203/9 "2013-09-04T19:01:16Z")
One of those 4.5" angle grinders with a steel-cutting disc will make fast work of it… NEVER work under a car supported by a jack…Buy some ramps and/or jack stands… ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-do-i-remove-these-frozen-bolts/81203/10 "2013-09-04T20:56:58Z")
Sounds like this car needs to be put on a lift before any more damage is done… ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 10:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-do-i-remove-these-frozen-bolts/81203/11 "2013-09-04T22:59:43Z")
I won’t get under a car even when supported by my 2.5 ton hydraulic floor jack. I ALWAYS use stands. I think you’ll find you have far more leverage if you can SAFELY get under the vehicle. ---
**Author:** ![ryC4E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c0e974/32.png) [@ryC4E](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ryC4E)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 12:13am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-do-i-remove-these-frozen-bolts/81203/12 "2013-09-05T00:13:04Z")
just to clarify I AM and have been using stands. ---
**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 12:25am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-do-i-remove-these-frozen-bolts/81203/13 "2013-09-05T00:25:22Z")
Yeah, we tend to get off track sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 2:58am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-do-i-remove-these-frozen-bolts/81203/14 "2013-09-05T02:58:47Z")
What, exactly, are these bolts attaching onto the car? And spraying pb blaster on a bolt head won’t do much, you have to get it to the threads. May need to use heat (if you safely can). ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 4:25am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-do-i-remove-these-frozen-bolts/81203/15 "2013-09-05T04:25:40Z")
A torch will be dangerous in close quarters. I wouldn’t use one unless the car is in a lift and the bolts are not too close to stuff that burns, like oil or rubber. ---
**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 7:12am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-do-i-remove-these-frozen-bolts/81203/16 "2013-09-05T07:12:35Z")
Six point socket (Craftsman or better) and a good ratchet or breaker bar with a 4 foot piece of steel pipe over it will take out most bolts. Steel fence posts in concrete that have been discsrded are a good source. ---
**Author:** ![RemcoW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/remcow/32/2471_2.png) [@RemcoW](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RemcoW)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 8:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-do-i-remove-these-frozen-bolts/81203/17 "2013-09-05T20:10:04Z")
First roll the car on ramps so you get conveniently get to the bolt with tools. That’s probably how you stripped one of them, not being dead square on the thing. If the car is low, place the ramps onto some 2x16 lumber to raise it up further. Besides gallons of PB blaster, get whitey’s breaker bar, a six point socket (not a twelve point) and whatever extension you need to get a good grip. Then get a dead blow rubber mallet and tap on the end of the breaker bar. You want to shock the bolt, coaxing it loose. ---
**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 8:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-do-i-remove-these-frozen-bolts/81203/18 "2013-09-05T20:41:29Z")
If you’re going to put a steel pipe over the end of the breaker bar, or you’re going to tap the end of the breaker bar with a rubber mallet, it would be a good idea to get a helper to hold the six point socket on the end of the bolt. If you try to do it all yourself, you might end up stripping it further. ---
**Author:** ![RemcoW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/remcow/32/2471_2.png) [@RemcoW](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RemcoW)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 10:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/how-do-i-remove-these-frozen-bolts/81203/19 "2013-09-05T22:07:22Z")
Good point, @whitey: You do have to be square on that nut/bolt for it to make any difference.