# Honda Civic '94 - front brake failure conditions

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/honda-civic-94-front-brake-failure-conditions/24805>\
**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Created:** [January 12, 2009, 8:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/honda-civic-94-front-brake-failure-conditions/24805 "2009-01-12T20:02:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![ruben1967](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3da27b/32.png) [@ruben1967](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ruben1967)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 8:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/honda-civic-94-front-brake-failure-conditions/24805/1 "2009-01-12T20:02:58Z")

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I have a 1994 Honda Civic. I just replaced the front (pads) and rear (bands) brakes and this is the 3rd time that I doding by myself. After I finish in bleed and pump the brake, I notice that the bake pedal was still very loose and going all the way down, and sometime getting hard (intermitent). I went to a close mechanic shop and told that it could be the master cylinder. Any ideas?

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 8:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/honda-civic-94-front-brake-failure-conditions/24805/2 "2009-01-12T20:05:05Z")

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Sounds like a Master Cylinder problem.

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**Author:** ![markmast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@markmast](https://community.cartalk.com/u/markmast)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 12:16am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/honda-civic-94-front-brake-failure-conditions/24805/3 "2009-01-13T00:16:21Z")

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check for a brake fluid leak at one of the calipers or wheel cylinders. if there is no leak, it’s probably the master cylinder

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**Author:** ![ok4450](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ok4450](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ok4450)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 12:37am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/honda-civic-94-front-brake-failure-conditions/24805/4 "2009-01-13T00:37:10Z")

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Improperly adjusted rear brakes can mimic a faulty master cylinder so make sure the rears are properly adjusted.

And for a simple brake replacement why are you having to bleed the brakes?
