# Honda and Nissan are in talks to Merge **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 17, 2024, 11:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/honda-and-nissan-are-in-talks-to-merge/198421 "2024-12-17T23:20:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2024, 8:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/honda-and-nissan-are-in-talks-to-merge/198421/41 "2024-12-27T20:50:14Z")
In case you missed it… The merger is a moving forward including Mitsubishi. [https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a63265051/honda-nissan-confirm-merger-plans/](https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a63265051/honda-nissan-confirm-merger-plans/) ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2024, 9:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/honda-and-nissan-are-in-talks-to-merge/198421/42 "2024-12-27T21:16:14Z")
Yes, I had read that Mitsubishi is supposed to be part of this And it’s NOT reassuring ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2024, 9:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/honda-and-nissan-are-in-talks-to-merge/198421/43 "2024-12-27T21:30:20Z")
> [@db4690](#): > > And it’s NOT reassuring Agree, No it isn’t reassuring! ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/honda-and-nissan-are-in-talks-to-merge/198421/44 "2025-02-16T19:59:32Z")
> [@Mustangman](#): > > The merger is a moving forward including Mitsubishi. It _was_, but just a couple of months later, it now appears to be _dead in the water_. It sounds like Nissan didn’t want to be the “junior” partner, despite their rapidly-declining sales figures. > **[Honda-Nissan’s $60bn merger collapses with promise to continue collaboration...](https://www.the-independent.com/news/business/honda-nissan-merger-deal-collapse-b2699040.html)** > > Merger would have created world's third-largest auto group by vehicle sales, only after Toyota and Volkswagen ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 9:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/honda-and-nissan-are-in-talks-to-merge/198421/45 "2025-02-16T21:05:51Z")
Well, this is just insane, imo It sounds like Nissan is just plain arrogant and apparently thinks more of it itself than others do As I see it, they are CLEARLY far weaker than Honda and should indeed be the junior partner ---
**Author:** ![Clueless33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dbc845/32.png) [@Clueless33](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Clueless33)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 11:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/honda-and-nissan-are-in-talks-to-merge/198421/46 "2025-02-16T23:00:45Z")
> [@db4690](#): > > Well, this is just insane, imo > It sounds like Nissan is just plain arrogant and apparently thinks more of it itself than others do > > As I see it, they are CLEARLY far weaker than Honda and should indeed be the junior partner I’ve never met any Nissan owner who has had good experience with the Nissan brand. My brother owns a frontier ( Nissan) and boasts that it’s the best vehicle he’s ever owned. But from what I know is that it was parked for several years needing a transmission replacement. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 11:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/honda-and-nissan-are-in-talks-to-merge/198421/47 "2025-02-16T23:28:31Z")
It’s traditional, it would seem. My brother’s 1968 SPL310 was so bad that he vowed to never again buy a Datsun/Nissan. All of the chrome–including both bumpers–was rusted w/in 1 year. Rainwater poured into the cabin, at the base of the windshield, the tonneau cover couldn’t be secured because it didnt line up properly with the snaps. It performed poorly in cold weather, and the list goes on… ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 11:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/honda-and-nissan-are-in-talks-to-merge/198421/48 "2025-02-16T23:38:38Z")
Back in the day, I had a 1988 Sentra, and it was just fine But it was clearly inferior to the Civics and Corollas of its time ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 1:03am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/honda-and-nissan-are-in-talks-to-merge/198421/49 "2025-02-17T01:03:16Z")
Yeah, I read that yesterday and was going to post it, but you got there first. Anyway, here’s the link I read. Also, I’m not sure where I read it, but the main reason that mergers don’t go through is that one of the partners feels like the other wants to be the senior member and the disrespected company’s managers can’t abide that. Ego wins again. BTW, I may have seen it in one of the articles posted above, it I’m not going through them to verify that. > **[Why the Honda-Nissan Merger Collapsed and What Could Happen Next](https://www.thedrive.com/news/why-the-honda-nissan-merger-collapsed-and-what-could-happen-next)** > > Reportedly disrespected by Honda's proposal to make it a subsidiary, Nissan is still looking for a partner. Its future may depend on finding one. [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/honda-and-nissan-are-in-talks-to-merge/198421.md?page=2)