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Ah the men in black are everywhere,jumping out of those creepy black limos or the unmarked helicopters.Ever hear of Capital punishment,the Draft,ever see a police officer with a gun,RubyRidge or Waco?A hanging Judge? Dont worry someone somewhere takes notice of a lot of things,more cameras are installed everyday on interstates and major through fares(facial recognition software works better then you think,its already later then you think.Nanotechnology has great potential for abuse by those in power.This great nation has become something the framers of the Constitution never intended.Abolute power,corrupts absolutely-KEVIN
PS there is a powerful computer program that basically monitors every word sent through the internet and certain keywords attract its attention.

So true Dagosa,I sincerely believe when its my word against someone a little higher up on the FoodChain,I will always come out second best.( Never did like the way the investigator tried to put words in my mouth)-Kevin
PS,I hope you are referring to Tea Party teabaggers.

Ah, you mean the same framers of the constitution who had slaves and didn’t have provisions for voting rights for women. Luckily these same “framers” alowed for AMENDMENTS so the constitution could keep up with the changing times as it was never ment to be a stagnant document. Must be tough living in fear all the time.

Cigroller, I’m not bristling at you for one second even if our opinions diverge a bit.
I don’t have a problem with windpower. What I have a problem with is taxpayer money being spent on something that apparently is nowhere near cost effective and will consume more energy and man hours generating electricity as compared to coal fired, hydro, or even nuclear and then having me pay through the nose for it. “Clean, cheap, wind power” is a descriptive phrase that is not applicable; especially based on the 12% average on time.

There’s a wind farm west of me in NW OK and I don’t know how many towers are there (rough guess is 2-300) and after going by there many times I seldom ever see more than 10-15% of them in operation. If the goal is to generate clean, cheap wind power then they should all be spinning other than ones down for repair.

There’s a coal fired plant 40 miles from and in spite of the perception that a coal plant is nasty, contaminates the earth, and pours out clouds of billowing smoke that is not the case. As a matter of fact, this plant in located on a lake that is part of a wildlife preserve. The exhaust is scrubbed, ground and water tested regularly, and it’s a great place for fishing, swimming, boating, and so on.

As to railroads, they’ve pretty much shot themselves in the foot. Most of the tracks have been torn up here and farm goods are shipped by truck due to sheer economics. For instance, the railroads charge about 30% more than trucking companies for hauling wheat so it’s not difficult to see where what the preferred method of transport will be.

I’m not adverse to some government (taxpayer) intervention but do like it held to a minimum. The now defunct GM plant in OK City is a prime example of playing the taxpayers (to rehash a phrase of mine) “like a cheap banjo at a hillbilly hoedown”. :wink:

At least some of them recognized the need to foment a little disquiet from time to time,to not accept everything the man told them.Remember the roots of "Manifest Destiny "and what have you.You cannot allow too much power in the hands of too few.I’m glad I dont live in fear-Kevin

PS there is a powerful computer program that basically monitors every word sent through the internet and certain keywords attract its attention.

As a Software Engineer manager in the Telecom industry with over 40 years experience as an engineer
BS in Computer Science and MS in Applied Mathematics
Let me just say that “You have no idea what you’re talking about.” What supermarket tabloid are you getting your wacko information from??? It’s quite obvious that you have very little knowledge of computers or software
so please don’t make comments on something you obviously know nothing about.

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At this point, I don’t see any point to continuing this thread, and would recommend that the moderators lock it. While this is in the “General Discussion” part of the forum, this thread now appears to be heading deeply into the realm of paranoia and hallucinations, and–IMHO–does not serve any legitimate purpose.

Are the moderators following this thread?

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Seems like ,I was right after all ,the govt finally admitted it .

I think most railroad owners would be tickled pink if the government built and acquired the right of way for a large system of tracks and maintained them and they only were responsible for the rolling stock and only had to pay a small toll or, fuel tax, and annual licensing fee to use that system, much like truck drivers do with government maintained highways built on government acquired right of ways.
The most expensive part of a railroad is building and maintaining the tracks, not the rolling stock.

You don’t see the mercury it is emitting. Do you see all the coal ash being carted away? Where do you think that goes!

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/duke-energy-fined-102-million-in-coal-ash-spill/

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geeh this thread is older than I am

Dang kids. Not loving nuclear myself, what to do with the waste, take coal anyday.

I dunno Kevin, but I think you made the IRS list to be audited with talk like that. If you don’t come around then, it’ll be the re-education camp.

Nah! Two things you gotta remember.
1: They are not as organized as you think they are.
2: You are not as important as you think you are.

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Nah! Two things you gotta remember.
1: They are not as organized as you think they are.

( it is called personal anonymity) In response to No.2
2: You are not as important as you think you are.


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I dunno Kevin, but I think you made the IRS list to be audited with
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Dang kids. Not loving nuclear myself, what to do with the waste, take
coal anyday.


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Isotope Half-life
Strontium-90 28 years
Caesium-137 30 years
Plutonium-239 24,000 years
Caesium-135 2.3 million years
Iodine-129 15.7 million years
It is clear from the table above that the left over nuclear isotopes from the generation of electricity through nuclear power are extremely long lived and therefore must be shielded from humans and the environment for a long time.

They are not the same toxicity,Solid plutonium can be be handled safely with your bare hands,the Potassium in your banana is slightly radioactive ,there is radiation everywhere in the environment,there are methods to shield and chelate the body,even after a nuclear bomb explodes at lot of the really nasty stuff decays quickly,the worst factor is exposure over time a coal fired power plant directly emits more radioactivity into the air then a correctly functioning nuclear plant,As I said do the research ,the nuclear boogeyman is not as scary as most are lead to believe.Back when nuclear power was coming on line the oil industry actually promoted solar energy vs Nuclear power (BTW ,will coal power a submarine ? or a space probe?) ask the people on the Dan river what they think of "clean coal "I dont want to argue but we can accomadate a whole spectrum of newer technologies ,not just to favor the entrenched "good ol’ boy " network .

Hi, I’m not sure whether this was ever fully car/driving/fuel/transport related, but if the continues could you kindly try to keep it in that realm? Thanks.

It sure is ,how do think electric cars can be charged ?