# Grandfathers tools,how many 14mm sockets do i need? Looks like he had some duplicate wrenchess **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 26, 2024, 11:13pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/grandfathers-tools-how-many-14mm-sockets-do-i-need-looks-like-he-had-some-duplicate-wrenchess/194985 "2024-05-26T23:13:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 1:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/grandfathers-tools-how-many-14mm-sockets-do-i-need-looks-like-he-had-some-duplicate-wrenchess/194985/21 "2024-05-28T13:41:13Z")
Not sure if this has been properly named yet, but it is a speeder handle/speeder bar, NOT a speed wrench… Speeder handles have a large bend in the shaft that allows the shaft to be turned rapidly to quickly rotate the socket to install or remove nuts and bolts, it has a drive (1/4", 3/8", 1/2" normally) at the end of the shaft that connects to a socket… [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/optimized/3X/1/e/1ec506c0ecd87d2b6024e3c305f6798409064d67_2_1035x739.jpeg) ](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/optimized/3X/1/e/1ec506c0ecd87d2b6024e3c305f6798409064d67_2_1035x739.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Robert-Gift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/robert-gift/32/356_2.png) [@Robert-Gift](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Robert-Gift)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 2:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/grandfathers-tools-how-many-14mm-sockets-do-i-need-looks-like-he-had-some-duplicate-wrenchess/194985/22 "2024-05-28T14:05:42Z")
I’d attach one of each kind to a wall plaque for display in man cave. (back of garage) Removeable if needed. (I have a rare Metric Crescent™ Wrench from the late 1960’s!) PS: Grandfather never owned any metric tools. Before metricrap came about. ---
**Author:** ![wentwest](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wentwest/32/6073_2.png) [@wentwest](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wentwest)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 6:37pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/grandfathers-tools-how-many-14mm-sockets-do-i-need-looks-like-he-had-some-duplicate-wrenchess/194985/23 "2024-05-28T18:37:13Z")
Sorry Robert-Gift, I’m not going down another rabbit hole about metric. ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 8:13pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/grandfathers-tools-how-many-14mm-sockets-do-i-need-looks-like-he-had-some-duplicate-wrenchess/194985/24 "2024-05-28T20:13:42Z")
But a Metric Crescent Wrench is still funny, and yes they are real… lol ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/grandfathers-tools-how-many-14mm-sockets-do-i-need-looks-like-he-had-some-duplicate-wrenchess/194985/25 "2024-05-28T20:34:25Z")
> [@davesmopar](#): > > But a Metric Crescent Wrench is still funny, Only the first 100 times RG posts that but after that , not so much. ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/grandfathers-tools-how-many-14mm-sockets-do-i-need-looks-like-he-had-some-duplicate-wrenchess/194985/26 "2024-05-28T20:40:49Z")
I have found my /32 sockets can work when the metric I need, like the 14mm I loose on a regular basis is missing ;( ---
**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 8:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/grandfathers-tools-how-many-14mm-sockets-do-i-need-looks-like-he-had-some-duplicate-wrenchess/194985/27 "2024-05-28T20:53:28Z")
A good substitute for a 14mm is 9/16” ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 9:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/grandfathers-tools-how-many-14mm-sockets-do-i-need-looks-like-he-had-some-duplicate-wrenchess/194985/28 "2024-05-28T21:12:53Z")
Found 17/32 worked better for me. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 9:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/grandfathers-tools-how-many-14mm-sockets-do-i-need-looks-like-he-had-some-duplicate-wrenchess/194985/29 "2024-05-28T21:19:37Z")
> [@LoudThunder](#): > > That “curvy snake-shaped wrench” is what is referred to as a “Speed Wrench” I was referring to the wrench at the top right, in the row of wrenches. I inherited one of those speed wrenches to which you refer. My dad inherited it the first time. He never used it. I can’t say I’ve ever used it. They must have been a pretty common diy’er tool at one point, before ratchets and sockets. ---
**Author:** ![LoudThunder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/loudthunder/32/27769_2.png) [@LoudThunder](https://community.cartalk.com/u/LoudThunder)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 3:08am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/grandfathers-tools-how-many-14mm-sockets-do-i-need-looks-like-he-had-some-duplicate-wrenchess/194985/30 "2024-05-29T03:08:57Z")
> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#): > > I was referring to the wrench at the top right, in the row of wrenches. OK, I see what you are referring to… It is called an “S” wrench because of its shape (like the letter “S”, not like a “snake…” L o L . . . .), an s-wrench was used on bolt heads and nuts in difficult-to-reach places on a locomotive. [| National Museum of American History](https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/nmah_1213002#:~:text=Description%3A,reach%20places%20on%20the%20locomotive). I have several of these wrench that I inherited from my Grandfather. The are relatively short handled, about 8", but for large nuts\bolts, about an inch to an inch and a half, and from my Grandfather’s past, I always figured they were for farm equipment. There is also an expiation that the “S” shape was largely to present more torque to the fastener with a shorter wrench. I so not know how to test that theory… ---
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 1:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/grandfathers-tools-how-many-14mm-sockets-do-i-need-looks-like-he-had-some-duplicate-wrenchess/194985/31 "2024-05-29T13:18:03Z")
Ever watch old racing movies? They will occasionally show pit crews changing spark plugs during a pit stop using a speeder handle. ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 1:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/grandfathers-tools-how-many-14mm-sockets-do-i-need-looks-like-he-had-some-duplicate-wrenchess/194985/32 "2024-05-29T13:21:02Z")
I had a rotator ratchet handle with square drive end till I broke it. Handy tool. I got a cheap Stanley replacement but it does not have a drive end. ---
**Author:** ![Rod-Knox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Rod-Knox](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rod-Knox)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 3:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/grandfathers-tools-how-many-14mm-sockets-do-i-need-looks-like-he-had-some-duplicate-wrenchess/194985/33 "2024-06-01T15:39:26Z")
Ford starter wrenches were necessary for years and those ‘snake’ wrenches were necessary when holding one fitting while turning one connected to it. I had accumulated a 5 gallon bucket of combination wrenches that had been carefully bent to enable speeding up common jobs like removing EGR valves on 2.5L 4cylinder celebrity engines. ---
**Author:** ![glasspilot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/glasspilot/32/27886_2.png) [@glasspilot](https://community.cartalk.com/u/glasspilot)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 12:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/grandfathers-tools-how-many-14mm-sockets-do-i-need-looks-like-he-had-some-duplicate-wrenchess/194985/34 "2024-06-02T12:20:19Z")
> [@Rod-Knox](#): > > 2.5L 4cylinder celebrity engines. The “Iron Duke!” I had one in my 1988 Olds Ciera. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 12:25am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/grandfathers-tools-how-many-14mm-sockets-do-i-need-looks-like-he-had-some-duplicate-wrenchess/194985/35 "2024-06-03T00:25:27Z")
My one grandfather died before I was born so never met him. I do have his flimsy scaffold though and a table he made. The only thing I have from my other grandfather is his philco radio I had to buy at auction. No tools from either one. My dad had a sae craftsman socket set with the breaker bar and no ratchet. I managed to break a few small engine head bolts with that one. ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 1:17am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/grandfathers-tools-how-many-14mm-sockets-do-i-need-looks-like-he-had-some-duplicate-wrenchess/194985/36 "2024-06-03T01:17:07Z")
Remembering a saw blade, maybe 3 inches, that attached to a drill. Dumb teenage yout, tried using it and it kicked back and nearly cut my face. Tossed it! [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/grandfathers-tools-how-many-14mm-sockets-do-i-need-looks-like-he-had-some-duplicate-wrenchess/194985.md?page=1)