# Going too far with tire size **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Created:** [July 10, 2016, 5:35am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/going-too-far-with-tire-size/93784 "2016-07-10T05:35:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![circuitsmith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/circuitsmith/32/40376_2.png) [@circuitsmith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/circuitsmith)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 5:35am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/going-too-far-with-tire-size/93784/1 "2016-07-10T05:35:08Z")
Put big rims and wide tires on an econobox. Load it down heavily so the tires can touch the fenders. Ignore this issue “It only created a slight cut around the tire, nothing deep at all and it rarely occured” Hit the highway and cruise at 70mph. This is what you get: ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/2X/f/ffd6ea0b4ff4fa02ebb81899bcd90548720b6e78.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 5:48am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/going-too-far-with-tire-size/93784/2 "2016-07-10T05:48:03Z")
Good warning. Too bad the kids don’t see it. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 5:49am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/going-too-far-with-tire-size/93784/3 "2016-07-10T05:49:40Z")
the guy had warning signs and chose to ignore them that would normally make me say the guy is an idiot on the other hand, perhaps he spent all his cash getting those fat rims and tires, and had no money left over to go back to stock. He may not even have the stock rims and tires, anymore Something tells me the guy is also pretty young ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 6:06am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/going-too-far-with-tire-size/93784/4 "2016-07-10T06:06:45Z")
That wheel is in the trunk, can you post a picture of an installed wheel to show the size relationship and suspension height/modification? ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 6:11am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/going-too-far-with-tire-size/93784/5 "2016-07-10T06:11:13Z")
_“Something tells me the guy is also pretty young”._ I’d bet on it. Before retiring from the college I used to see a lot of kids with wheel/tire combinations that were destined for trouble. The kids see rally cars with the wheels & tires way out and don’t seem to realize that the suspensions on those cars have very little vertical travel, and body roll is almost nonexistent. Put the same wheels and tires on a stock Civic and it just doesn’t work… especially if you “slam” it by chopping a few coils out of the springs. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 7:24am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/going-too-far-with-tire-size/93784/6 "2016-07-10T07:24:32Z")
Is that too close to the side wall to patch, he asks? Yeah we all did silly stuff but everyone didn’t have a camera back then to record everything. ---
**Author:** ![Sloepoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@Sloepoke](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Sloepoke)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 8:01am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/going-too-far-with-tire-size/93784/7 "2016-07-10T08:01:06Z")
My state has yearly state inspection & you can only go one size over or one size under the proper size for the vehicle & pass inspection . Of course what some people does between those yearly inspections is questionable . ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 8:28am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/going-too-far-with-tire-size/93784/8 "2016-07-10T08:28:07Z")
That is a normal tire size for some modern vehicles. I wonder why it rubs the fenders. Sidewall failure is common if driven while the tire is deflated. Sometimes the customers just bring in the sidewalls. ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 8:44am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/going-too-far-with-tire-size/93784/9 "2016-07-10T08:44:35Z")
Had a ton of old pavers in my car today, trailblazer, going for another ton tomorrow, glad I have service, not style. 100 pavers at 6lbs ea, On the rare occasion the water utility does a repair on an old street, they save them in a pile for me. Not a literal ton I guess but heavy enough. need pavers? ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 8:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/going-too-far-with-tire-size/93784/10 "2016-07-10T20:19:14Z")
Nevada, it’s in the offset. Kids get wheels that stick the tires out under the fender and in many cases install spacers under the wheels to get the effect. Not only does that eat the sidewalls, but it does wonders for the bearings, ball joints, and everything else subjected to greater loads. The old saying “I could lift the world if I had a lever long enough” applies to this situation too. Sticking the wheels farther away from the bearings and ball joints is like adding a longer lever. I used to see the kids put on rims too wide too. Like the one below. ---
**Author:** ![Sloepoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@Sloepoke](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Sloepoke)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/going-too-far-with-tire-size/93784/11 "2016-07-10T20:25:30Z")
I don’t imagine it does the fenders any good either . ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/going-too-far-with-tire-size/93784/12 "2016-07-10T20:32:53Z")
They make a tool to “roll” the fender edge under, but the image I posted is headed for tire failure. And probably ball joint failure. And bearing failure. From a technical standpoint this is just plain dumb, but the kids do it all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 12:22am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/going-too-far-with-tire-size/93784/13 "2016-07-11T00:22:36Z")
The look is called “stanced” or in more extremes, “Hellaflush” Stupid to the extreme… really wide wheels, narrow tires stretched onto those wheels and spaced outboard with tons of negative camber like this; ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/2X/4/430c6b1945cf8dcdfccb116fd5ad8b1cb4469b8e.jpg) You can SEE the rub marks on the tire. ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 1:07am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/going-too-far-with-tire-size/93784/14 "2016-07-11T01:07:39Z")
I call this the “Hot Wheels look”. I don’t understand how these kids can’t see the problem. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 1:08am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/going-too-far-with-tire-size/93784/15 "2016-07-11T01:08:07Z")
@Mountainbike The wheel in the trunk appears to be of normal size and offset, I work with aftermarket wheels daily on customers cars. Your example is much different, the custom extended width that some people have. ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 1:16am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/going-too-far-with-tire-size/93784/16 "2016-07-11T01:16:32Z")
I dunno. It’s hard to tell with the sidewall completely carved off. I doubt seriously if the one in my image can be driven without rubbing. I suspect that both the one in my post and the one in Mustang’s post have air or hydraulic suspension that lifts the car before rolling, but both are dumb IMHO, Mustang’s being measurably the worst example. I’m not sure “seated” is an appropriate description of the beads. ---
**Author:** ![shanonia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@shanonia](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shanonia)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 1:30am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/going-too-far-with-tire-size/93784/17 "2016-07-11T01:30:51Z")
While doing some wheel/tire research on line a couple years ago, I came across a company that LEASES tire/wheel combos! Anyone want to bet that the people who go that route are more likely than most to be poor drivers and uninsured? And behind on their car payments? ---
**Author:** ![ok4450](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ok4450](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ok4450)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 2:23am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/going-too-far-with-tire-size/93784/18 "2016-07-11T02:23:33Z")
There’s a young man around here with a slammed Mazda Miata. He has oversized tires on it that extend about 4" out past the wheel wells. The bottoms of the tires extend even more because all four wheels have about 6 or 7 degrees of negative camber. He apparently has a death wish much like these people. It’s a shame because the car is otherwise very pretty. ---
**Author:** ![Sloepoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@Sloepoke](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Sloepoke)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 4:04am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/going-too-far-with-tire-size/93784/19 "2016-07-11T04:04:59Z")
Does anyone really see cars on the road like that ? If so , I’m surprised the law allows it . ---
**Author:** ![ok4450](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ok4450](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ok4450)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 4:08am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/going-too-far-with-tire-size/93784/20 "2016-07-11T04:08:36Z")
That Miata I mentioned previously has all 4 wheels canted like the rear ones on the white car at the start of the video. The only difference is that they all protrude out further than the ones in the video. With the Miata the edge of the fender mates up with the center of the tires. There are statutes about ticketing or impounding unsafe vehicles here in OK but it’s seldom if ever enforced. [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/going-too-far-with-tire-size/93784.md?page=2)