# Gm to eliminate Apple Car Play and Android Auto **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 13, 2023, 3:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-to-eliminate-apple-car-play-and-android-auto/194005 "2023-12-13T15:01:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 8:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-to-eliminate-apple-car-play-and-android-auto/194005/21 "2023-12-14T20:47:32Z")
> [@Mustangman](#): > > If you receive a service for free… YOU and your information is the product. Google presumably doesn’t know who I am b/c I don’t use any of their sign-in services. But they know the IP address of my computer, so they can use that to send me adverts whenever I use their website. Ok by me, same as watching tv or listening to the radio. Easy to ignore the ads for products I’m not interested. There is one super annoying ad I guess I just have to learn to live with, a 15 second tv spot featuring a women advertising some sort of bizarre body odor product. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-to-eliminate-apple-car-play-and-android-auto/194005/22 "2023-12-14T20:56:41Z")
> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#): > > There is one super annoying ad I guess I just have to learn to live with, a 15 second tv spot featuring a women advertising some sort of bizarre body odor product. Yes! I will never consider buying that product, simply because their commercial is so incredibly annoying. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-to-eliminate-apple-car-play-and-android-auto/194005/23 "2023-12-14T21:00:05Z")
I used to have a homeless person that followed me around. No idea why, but I’d turn a corner, there he was ! … the tv advert is sort of like that … lol … ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-to-eliminate-apple-car-play-and-android-auto/194005/24 "2023-12-14T21:02:22Z")
I wonder how many forum members recall how late Toyota was in adding Apple Car Play and Android Auto. As much as I like most Toyota models, Apple Car Play only became available in 2019, and Android Auto wasn’t added until 2020–i.e., much later than most of their competitors. For that reason alone, I wouldn’t have considered buying any of their offerings until Toyota caught-up with modern technology for their electronic interface. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-to-eliminate-apple-car-play-and-android-auto/194005/25 "2023-12-14T21:10:43Z")
Anybody care to educate the rest of us who have no idea what those products do? ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-to-eliminate-apple-car-play-and-android-auto/194005/26 "2023-12-14T21:41:14Z")
> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#): > > Google presumably doesn’t know who I am b/c I don’t use any of their sign-in services. But they know the IP address of my computer, so they can use that to send me adverts A little research will tell you Google knows more about you than your own mother or spouse. Just Google it! ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-to-eliminate-apple-car-play-and-android-auto/194005/27 "2023-12-14T21:48:54Z")
> [@Mustangman](#): > > Google knows more about you than your own mother or spouse. Just Google it! I googled “what does google know about me” .. As far as I can tell, excepting today’s use of their website, they don’t know much of anything. The links below suggest if you have a Google account, then they may know a lot. > **[6 links that will show you what Google knows about you](https://medium.com/productivity-in-the-cloud/6-links-that-will-show-you-what-google-knows-about-you-f39b8af9decc)** > > Want to find out all the things Google knows about you? Here are 6 links that will show you some of the data Google has about you. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-to-eliminate-apple-car-play-and-android-auto/194005/28 "2023-12-14T21:50:33Z")
They allow the driver to receive/place phone calls via the vehicle’s video screen, and they display the name of the person who is calling you. The front audio speakers allow you to hear the caller, and the microphone embedded in the ceiling or the instrument panel allow the caller to hear you. Your phone’s “phonebook” can be displayed on the vehicle’s video screen as soon as you link the phone to the vehicle. If I see an incoming call from an unknown number, I don’t bother to touch the screen in order to answer it, just as I do when I’m not driving. One of the nicest features of these electronic gizmos is that the vehicle’s audio system is muted when the phone feature is active. And, if you are using the vehicle’s GPS system, the phone will mute that, just as it mutes the audio system. Additionally, if you like to play music on your phone, these features allow you to hear it through the vehicle’s audio system. If you don’t have a GPS system in the vehicle, they allow you to use an app such as Waze or Google Maps, and the map info will display on your video screen, while the turn-by-turn directions are heard through your audio system. ---
**Author:** ![Rainflurry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cab0a1/32.png) [@Rainflurry](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rainflurry)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-to-eliminate-apple-car-play-and-android-auto/194005/29 "2023-12-14T21:51:43Z")
> [@MikeInNH](#): > > So I was just paraphrasing Actually, that’s not paraphrasing. It’s faulty generalization. Paraphrasing is when you use different words without changing the meaning. Look, I’m not necessarily criticizing you. The headline writers are usually to blame IMO and your link sent us to an article with essentially the same misleading headline. We live in a world where ad revenue is based on clicks, not content, so if the headline is tantalizing, if misleading, that’s ok with them. Personally, I think it’s poor journalism but I don’t derive my livelihood from ad revenue. That would be like posting a headline that says _IRS to increase your taxes by 50%._ Then, when you read the article, it turns out that the IRS is going to increase taxes by 50% only on people with incomes over $1M/year. I grew up in the auto repair industry and listened to mechanics and shop owners talk about what idiots the engineers must be to design a car this way or that way, thinking that serviceability was the only design consideration. That opinion is still alive and well and is usually expressed by people that have zero experience with what goes into making those decisions. I received an engineering degree and worked for Chevrolet and was involved in those very meetings with the S-Series trucks. There are very smart people at that level. The people that made that decision were balancing issues that you and I are unaware of. Don’t think that they haven’t taken into account the potential lost revenue from discontinuing Apple Car Play on future EVs. It’s been factored in. You may not like it, but I guarantee you the decision was well thought out. I’m a big fan of Apple Car Play and drive a 2022 GM vehicle so I took a particular interest in the headline. But, I have no plans to buy an EV so the link turned out to be a nonstory. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-to-eliminate-apple-car-play-and-android-auto/194005/30 "2023-12-14T21:54:42Z")
> [@VDCdriver](#): > > [those products] allow the driver to receive/place phone calls via the vehicle’s video screen, and they display the name of the person who is calling you … thanks for taking the time to provide a helpful explanation. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 11:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-to-eliminate-apple-car-play-and-android-auto/194005/31 "2023-12-14T23:14:07Z")
My daughters 2017 Corolla LE has a screen that her Apple and my Andriod smartphones will both link to (not at the same time of course) and it will play music from our smartphones as well as receive and make calls, text (will read the text), so it has Bluetooth… She does not and will not pay for any subscription, so I don’t know/remember what all it is capable… So I don’t know what the difference in her system and the Apple Car Play and or Andriod Auto is much less why it matters… ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 1:14am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-to-eliminate-apple-car-play-and-android-auto/194005/32 "2023-12-15T01:14:44Z")
> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#): > > Google presumably doesn’t know who I am b/c I don’t use any of their sign-in services. But they know the IP address of my computer, so they can use that to send me adverts whenever I use their website Google doesn’t keep a database of peoples IP addresses. Google will use the Cookies stored on your computer to do their targeted advertising. I personally set my browser to delete all cookies every time I exit the browser. I don’t like tracking cookies. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 3:14am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-to-eliminate-apple-car-play-and-android-auto/194005/33 "2023-12-15T03:14:50Z")
I can still play content from my iPhone on my Tesla even though Tesla doesn’t have CarPlay. I pair the phone with the car using Bluetooth and I can hear any content that is active on my phone. I haven’t tried to use the car’s audio system for phone calls or GPS. I have GPS on the car already and I’m not interested in running that test. ---
**Author:** ![old\_mopar\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/6bbea6/32.png) [@old\_mopar\_guy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/old_mopar_guy)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 3:21am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-to-eliminate-apple-car-play-and-android-auto/194005/34 "2023-12-15T03:21:36Z")
That’s Lume deodorant. Its a very hot product right now. ---
**Author:** ![bcohen2010](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@bcohen2010](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bcohen2010)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 3:32am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-to-eliminate-apple-car-play-and-android-auto/194005/35 "2023-12-15T03:32:06Z")
Am I the only person here who would NEVER connect his/her cellphone to their car? In fact, I don’t own any car which supports this feature, nor would I ever want to. A sound system with an AM/FM radio and CD player is all I’d ever need or want! ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 3:58am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-to-eliminate-apple-car-play-and-android-auto/194005/36 "2023-12-15T03:58:04Z")
No you aren’t alone. The wife uses blue tooth and if you are looking at the nav screen and a call comes in, good bye nav. Very irritating. ---
**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 8:35am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-to-eliminate-apple-car-play-and-android-auto/194005/37 "2023-12-15T08:35:50Z")
I DVR everything I watch so I can fast forward the tv shows and I have adblock on my desktop so I don’t see ads. If a site wants me to turn it off, well, there are a lot of other sites to visit. I have a cell phone that I sometimes remember to carry, but if I do carry it it is yssakky turned off. It is there If I need to make a call, not for anyone to bother me when I was driving. I was druvung a rental car today and it died just as I was starting up from a light. it left me right in the middle of a very busy intersection. It put itelf in park ans would not shiftout so it coule ne pushed…I hated that car with a passion. The heater controls were a nightmare , they were small, low on the dashand could not be operated withou taking your eves off the road. Ot had a push button start and a push and pull button on a low shifter with two buttons you push and 3 that you have to pull mounted low on the console. When it died, you could not roll up the windows or even put on the 4 way flshers but the radio kept playing. The police had it towed away on a flatbed and I never will have to see it again. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 2:11pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-to-eliminate-apple-car-play-and-android-auto/194005/38 "2023-12-15T14:11:18Z")
> [@bcohen2010](#): > > sound system with an AM/FM radio and CD player What vehicle sells a car with a CD anymore? > [@bing](#): > > The wife uses blue tooth and if you are looking at the nav screen and a call comes in, good bye nav. Very irritating. Really? Mine doesn’t do that. A little box pops up on top of the nav screen to notify a call is coming in. I’ve rented several vehicles over the years with Apple CarPlay and they all seemed to work that way. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 2:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-to-eliminate-apple-car-play-and-android-auto/194005/39 "2023-12-15T14:16:51Z")
> [@Rainflurry](#): > > Actually, that’s not paraphrasing. It’s faulty generalization. Paraphrasing is when you use different words without changing the meaning. I was paraphrasing the headline. Didn’t say I was paraphrasing what the article said. I know articles are written that way with catchy titles to get the reader. Which is EXACTLY why I paraphrased the headline. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 8:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-to-eliminate-apple-car-play-and-android-auto/194005/40 "2023-12-15T20:43:28Z")
> [@MikeInNH](#): > > What vehicle sells a car with a CD anymore? Probably there aren’t many at this point. The process of ridding CD players from cars apparently began ~7 years ago, and by 2021, less than half of the new cars on the market retained that technology. By now, I’m sure that it’s **far** less than 50%. > **[It's Time To Say Goodbye To The CD Player In New American Cars](https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2017/03/02/the-time-has-come-to-say-goodbye-to-the-cd-player-in-new-american-cars/?sh=1f44c68c2e88)** > > It's not actually all that surprising that Fords won't contain CD players anymore. [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-to-eliminate-apple-car-play-and-android-auto/194005.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-to-eliminate-apple-car-play-and-android-auto/194005.md?page=3)