# GM Buys 7% of Peugeot/Citroen

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-buys-7-of-peugeot-citroen/71323>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [March 7, 2012, 5:55am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-buys-7-of-peugeot-citroen/71323 "2012-03-07T05:55:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 10:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-buys-7-of-peugeot-citroen/71323/21 "2012-03-09T22:52:56Z")

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Optimist.

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**Author:** ![ok4450](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ok4450](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ok4450)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 11:32pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-buys-7-of-peugeot-citroen/71323/22 "2012-03-09T23:32:48Z")

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With an apology up front if the link is a faux pas, my bright outlook is because I figure things have improved, maybe, since the first GM/Peugeot collaboration… 🙂

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2012, 12:08am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-buys-7-of-peugeot-citroen/71323/23 "2012-03-10T00:08:18Z")

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[http://news.yahoo.com/american-auto-bailout-france-100824412--abc-news.html](http://news.yahoo.com/american-auto-bailout-france-100824412--abc-news.html)

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**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2012, 12:15am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-buys-7-of-peugeot-citroen/71323/24 "2012-03-10T00:15:39Z")

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I love it Mike! Especially the part where "The Peugeots declined the opportunity to buy a piece of GM."  
I think that says it all.

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**Author:** ![eraser1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6de8d8/32.png) [@eraser1998](https://community.cartalk.com/u/eraser1998)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2012, 2:05am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-buys-7-of-peugeot-citroen/71323/25 "2012-03-10T02:05:30Z")

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jtsanders-

If you’re buying a company, logic says the price should go UP, not down… but even then, they shouldn’t be overpaying by 35%… that’s a crazy price premium.

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**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2012, 2:20am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-buys-7-of-peugeot-citroen/71323/26 "2012-03-10T02:20:52Z")

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I regress to my earlier analogy of a compulsiveVegas gambler who goes broke and gets bailed out by his neighbor (who robs his children’s college trust funds to do so), then immediately upon bailing out heads straight back to Vegas.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2012, 2:50am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-buys-7-of-peugeot-citroen/71323/27 "2012-03-10T02:50:01Z")

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Here’s the January China sales figures according to GM Inside News:

Top 10 cars in China from January:

China January 2012:

Pos Model Jan Dec Nov 2011 Pos  
1 VW Passat 30,001 20 8 165,858 12  
2 Buick Excelle 28,680 17 2 253,514 1  
3 Chevrolet Cruze 22,711 8 5 221,196 3  
4 Chevrolet Sail 21,439 5 3 197,874 6  
5 VW Tiguan 20,408 65 49 129,172 23  
6 Buick Excelle XT/GT 19,787 49 14 134,800 22  
7 FAW Xiali N3/N5 18,390 15 4 196,522 7  
8 Hyundai Verna 17,815 25 13 138,525 21  
9 VW Lavida 15,718 2 1 247,475 2  
10 Nissan Sunny 14,766 13 19 156,954 15

27 Buick Lacrosse 9,402  
40 Buick Regal 7,760  
66 Buick GL8 5,267  
76 Chevy Spark 4,369  
111 Chevy Epica 2,781  
183 Cadillac SLS 559

Also, it was interesting that Fiat approached GM but talks ended. Maybe Fiat needed a couple more billion from GM again.

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**Author:** ![ok4450](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ok4450](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ok4450)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2012, 3:06am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-buys-7-of-peugeot-citroen/71323/28 "2012-03-10T03:06:04Z")

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I’m generally not one into conspiracy theories but I am cynical due to the track record of upper echelon people, whether they be CEOs of a corporation or politicians.

Maybe this deal is part of a larger, behind closed doors plan already in the works to get more taxpayer money. A half billion dollars is chump change if it’s parlayed into gloom and doom which in turn nets you countless billions of dollars more courtesy of the taxpayers.

In retrospect, maybe my 5 year window was way optimistic.

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**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2012, 5:35am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gm-buys-7-of-peugeot-citroen/71323/29 "2012-03-10T05:35:24Z")

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I love the theory OK4450. I wish I’d thought of it.

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