# Get ready for more severe supply-chain issues

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/get-ready-for-more-severe-supply-chain-issues/185030>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [July 3, 2022, 3:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/get-ready-for-more-severe-supply-chain-issues/185030 "2022-07-03T15:02:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 2:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/get-ready-for-more-severe-supply-chain-issues/185030/41 "2022-07-07T14:46:02Z")

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I wonder if this is an indication of more supply issues in our future:

> **[China: MI5 and FBI heads warn of ‘immense’ threat](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-62064506)**
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> The UK and US security service heads make an unprecedented joint appearance to warn about China.

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**Author:** ![Scrapyard-John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@Scrapyard-John](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Scrapyard-John)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 9:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/get-ready-for-more-severe-supply-chain-issues/185030/51 "2022-07-07T21:17:53Z")

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Ima go get mah flags and be all like, “Carolyn, Carolyn, these boys is bein bad!” 🙄

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 10:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/get-ready-for-more-severe-supply-chain-issues/185030/52 "2022-07-07T22:20:14Z")

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> [@bing](#):
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> seems to me [that Calif gov’ts ban on inde contract truckers] would be an unconstitutional restraint of trade.

Seems like that to me also. Interstate commerce clause grants Congress the power “to regulate Commerce … among the several States … .” Hard to figure out why congress hasn’t acted? As I’ve already mentioned I believe the Calif govt’s actual goal in all this isn’t to make it difficult to be a trucker, but to make sure the truckers and the trucking companies pay all their taxes.

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**Author:** ![old\_mopar\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/6bbea6/32.png) [@old\_mopar\_guy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/old_mopar_guy)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 10:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/get-ready-for-more-severe-supply-chain-issues/185030/53 "2022-07-07T22:21:13Z")

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Has nothing to do with California, it’s IRS regs

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 10:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/get-ready-for-more-severe-supply-chain-issues/185030/54 "2022-07-07T22:25:49Z")

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> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#):
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> Interstate commerce clause grants Congress the power “to regulate Commerce … among the several States

+1  
If a trucker’s routes and his business are confined to one state, then he is under the purview of that state’s laws and regulations. Once his business takes him across state lines, then federal laws and regulations come into play.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 10:35pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/get-ready-for-more-severe-supply-chain-issues/185030/55 "2022-07-07T22:35:49Z")

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Well what state is the house speaker from and what relation is the gov? Not hard at all to figure out.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 10:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/get-ready-for-more-severe-supply-chain-issues/185030/56 "2022-07-07T22:46:19Z")

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Not in 2017.

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**Author:** ![cdaquila](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cdaquila/32/18089_2.png) [@cdaquila](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cdaquila)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 4:06am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/get-ready-for-more-severe-supply-chain-issues/185030/57 "2022-07-08T04:06:32Z")

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I deleted a bunch of stuff that had nothing to do even with the independent contractor trucker issue.

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**Author:** ![cwatkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@cwatkin](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cwatkin)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2022, 8:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/get-ready-for-more-severe-supply-chain-issues/185030/58 "2022-07-20T20:26:20Z")

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If China attacks Taiwan, be ready for a real mess! This article focuses on Apple but the same would hold true for any major automaker and ANYONE requiring chips in their products which is most things these days. This would turn the world into a complete mess and supply chains would be severely disrupted for pretty much everything. It would make the Ukraine disruptions look like nothing.

> **[Apple's disaster scenario is a real possibility, say US and UK security...](https://9to5mac.com/2022/07/07/apples-disaster-scenario/)**
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> Back in March, we warned of the risk of Apple’s disaster scenario: Chinese takeover of Taiwan. Yesterday, the heads of both US and UK security services gave an “unprecedented” warning that this is not only possible but that China has been taking...

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2022, 8:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/get-ready-for-more-severe-supply-chain-issues/185030/59 "2022-07-20T20:47:14Z")

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Well if an executive climate change emergency declaration is made as promised, this will be the least of our problems. Interesting poll out of New York where 1-3% think climate change is our biggest problem.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2022, 10:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/get-ready-for-more-severe-supply-chain-issues/185030/60 "2022-07-20T22:07:53Z")

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> [@cwatkin](#):
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> article focuses on Apple

News here in Silicon Valley is that Apple is downsizing a little, said to believe upcoming economy may be on the fritz. Doubt their thinking is related to Taiwan or climate change tho.

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/get-ready-for-more-severe-supply-chain-issues/185030/61 "2022-07-20T22:13:52Z")

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I believe that TSMC is building a factory in the US because of the Mainland China threat of invasion. The last article I read on it reported that the factory will be in Arizona.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2022, 10:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/get-ready-for-more-severe-supply-chain-issues/185030/62 "2022-07-20T22:22:43Z")

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> [@cdaquila](#):
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> I deleted a bunch of stuff that had nothing to do even with the independent contractor trucker issue.

Oh, oh, totally forgot about that issue… lol … Calif gov’t has passed another law about this , I think it on the news the other day. Claim was the bill is to address the 1000+ truckers who complained (via lawsuits) they weren’t being treated fairly by their employer.

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**Author:** ![weekend-warrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/weekend-warrior/32/26122_2.png) [@weekend-warrior](https://community.cartalk.com/u/weekend-warrior)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2022, 10:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/get-ready-for-more-severe-supply-chain-issues/185030/63 "2022-07-20T22:23:31Z")

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> [@cwatkin](#):
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> same would hold true for any major automaker and ANYONE requiring chips

Not what I really wanted to hear, being I ordered a car and Iam waiting to see what the scheduled build date is. 🙄 🤣

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2022, 10:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/get-ready-for-more-severe-supply-chain-issues/185030/64 "2022-07-20T22:26:07Z")

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> [@weekend-warrior](#):
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> Not what I really wanted to hear, being I ordered a car and Iam waiting to see what the scheduled build **year** is

There, I fixed it for you…

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**Author:** ![weekend-warrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/weekend-warrior/32/26122_2.png) [@weekend-warrior](https://community.cartalk.com/u/weekend-warrior)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/get-ready-for-more-severe-supply-chain-issues/185030/65 "2022-07-20T22:34:38Z")

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Do not say that. 🤣 the build is excepted at the factory. just waiting for them to start the build. they say the 2023 builds will not open for a few months, so I hope they don’t make me wait for that. From what I am seeing they are still building the 2022. I guess time will tell.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2022, 10:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/get-ready-for-more-severe-supply-chain-issues/185030/66 "2022-07-20T22:40:28Z")

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What sort of vehicle are you ordering WW?

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2022, 10:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/get-ready-for-more-severe-supply-chain-issues/185030/67 "2022-07-20T22:46:27Z")

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> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#):
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> What sort of vehicle are you ordering WW?

+1  
I haven’t ordered my 2023 Lexus NX 450h+ because they haven’t yet posted any info about the 2023 model prices, colors, or option packages. As soon as they do, I’m off to a dealership, but I wish that Lexus was as forthcoming as the mfr of whatever make and model that you are ordering.

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**Author:** ![weekend-warrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/weekend-warrior/32/26122_2.png) [@weekend-warrior](https://community.cartalk.com/u/weekend-warrior)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2022, 11:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/get-ready-for-more-severe-supply-chain-issues/185030/68 "2022-07-20T23:39:59Z")

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Well I was dead set on the new corvette but it is a year and a half wait.  
so then I went to order the mach 1 mustang and the books are closed. so now I ordered the wide body scat pack challenger. yeah I know the gas, the gas. but YOLO.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2022, 11:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/get-ready-for-more-severe-supply-chain-issues/185030/69 "2022-07-20T23:44:35Z")

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> [@weekend-warrior](#):
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> so then I

Not sure what you were going to say, but waiting f 1 1/2 years for your new ~~Corvette Mustang~~ Challenger, frustrating for sure, but overall doesn’t seem too much of a burden. Compare you vs me for example. You have no ~~Corvette Mustang~~ Challenger to drive for 1 1/2 years. Meanwhile I have no Corolla to drive. The difference is you’ll eventually be driving your ~~Vette 'Tang~~ Challenger … lol …

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