# Gate Shifters **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Created:** [July 23, 2008, 1:01am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gate-shifters/17086 "2008-07-23T01:01:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mconn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc348/32.png) [@mconn](https://community.cartalk.com/u/mconn)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 1:01am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gate-shifters/17086/1 "2008-07-23T01:01:34Z")
Just a pet peeve. Because I prefer Toyotas, I’m stuck with the last two with gate shifters…does anyone else hate them as much as I do and wish the return to the old style. Tell me why you think they are better, other than to give the automatic only crowd the illusion the can drive a standard tranny. ---
**Author:** ![GreasyJack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/df705f/32.png) [@GreasyJack](https://community.cartalk.com/u/GreasyJack)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 2:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gate-shifters/17086/2 "2008-07-23T14:26:48Z")
I’ve been mad ever since they stopped using column shifters. I think they use the gate shifters because the action on them is smoother as well as giving the illusion of manual-driving. ---
**Author:** ![ken\_green](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/ken_green/32/816_2.png) [@ken\_green](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ken_green)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 5:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gate-shifters/17086/3 "2008-07-23T17:50:52Z")
Me too, hate 'em, makes life difficult when maneuvering back and forth such as a three point u-turn and positioning the vehicle within a small shop. Even sillier is the floor shifter in my 06 Escape hybrid. this is a CVT transmission, except for park, reverse and drive, there’s nothing to shift, it just takes up space.