# Gagged At The Gas Pump **URL:** \ **Category:** Power/Fuel\ **Tags:** van, ford, gasoline\ **Created:** [January 7, 2009, 8:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gagged-at-the-gas-pump/24543 "2009-01-07T20:12:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![nrgsd01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8797f3/32.png) [@nrgsd01](https://community.cartalk.com/u/nrgsd01)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 8:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gagged-at-the-gas-pump/24543/1 "2009-01-07T20:12:00Z")
Have a 2001 Ford 350 15 Passenger Wagon The gas will not go into the tank unless I dribble it in, it takes appprox 1/2 hr to fill. Had all gas tanked pulled, air lines & filler tube checked for blockages, there weren’t any. What could the cause be? ---
**Author:** ![Joseph\_E\_Meehan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/joseph_e_meehan/32/21_2.png) [@Joseph\_E\_Meehan](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Joseph_E_Meehan)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 9:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gagged-at-the-gas-pump/24543/2 "2009-01-07T21:42:03Z")
They checked the vapor recovery system? How about the valve? ---
**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 9:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gagged-at-the-gas-pump/24543/3 "2009-01-07T21:58:32Z")
Do you top off the tank or do you stop filling after the first click of the gas pump? ---
**Author:** ![lenjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f475e1/32.png) [@lenjack](https://community.cartalk.com/u/lenjack)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gagged-at-the-gas-pump/24543/4 "2009-01-08T21:21:31Z")
If you always try to squeeze in the very last drop, you may have saturated the evaporative system charcoal cannister. Expensive fix. ---
**Author:** ![tardis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@tardis](https://community.cartalk.com/u/tardis)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 10:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gagged-at-the-gas-pump/24543/5 "2009-01-08T22:28:02Z")
That truck is not subject to that particular design problem. It doesn’t vent through the canister while the gas cap is off. It’s something else. ---
**Author:** ![hilander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/d9b06d/32.png) [@hilander](https://community.cartalk.com/u/hilander)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 10:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gagged-at-the-gas-pump/24543/6 "2009-01-08T22:31:00Z")
when you fill it up try backing the nozzle out as much as you safely can----this reduces pressure and helps gas flow into tank ---
**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 2:37am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gagged-at-the-gas-pump/24543/7 "2009-01-09T02:37:06Z")
Design problem? I didn’t think damage sometimes caused by topping off the tank was a design problem. I thought it was user error. ---
**Author:** ![mr\_josh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mr_josh/32/3008_2.png) [@mr\_josh](https://community.cartalk.com/u/mr_josh)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 2:40am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gagged-at-the-gas-pump/24543/8 "2009-01-09T02:40:17Z")
Did they make sure that the gas tank and filler tube weren’t damaged at all? ---
**Author:** ![Caddyman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/caddyman/32/23_2.png) [@Caddyman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Caddyman)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 2:46am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gagged-at-the-gas-pump/24543/9 "2009-01-09T02:46:44Z")
There is a anti-roll-over check valve located in the filler line near the tank inlet. It’s just a cork or plastic ball in a cage. This ball can jam in the “closed” position and cause the problems you are having. It is usually a separate part, clamped into the filler line next to the tank. ---
**Author:** ![tardis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@tardis](https://community.cartalk.com/u/tardis)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 3:23am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gagged-at-the-gas-pump/24543/10 "2009-01-09T03:23:22Z")
When you can design a car that isn’t damaged by this common user activity but don’t, then I consider that to be a design error. Evidently Ford does too, because they avoid this problem via design. ---
**Author:** ![Joseph\_E\_Meehan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/joseph_e_meehan/32/21_2.png) [@Joseph\_E\_Meehan](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Joseph_E_Meehan)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 12:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gagged-at-the-gas-pump/24543/11 "2009-01-09T12:07:42Z")
That was what I was trying to think of, but I could not remember the name. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/gagged-at-the-gas-pump/24543/12 "2009-01-09T15:52:29Z")
Fair enough, tardis. We will just have to agree to disagree. I thought it was common knowledge that topping off the tank was a dumb thing to do. Between the warnings printed on the gas pump, in the owner’s manuals, and at least 100 other places, I figure it isn’t a good idea to top off the tank even if you own a Ford. Even if topping off the tank doesn’t damage the vehicle, it forces gas fumes into the air, which is both wasteful and bad for the environment. I always believed damage to the car was appropriate justice for ignoring all the warnings to not top off the tank and for deliberately damaging the Ozone layer. I guess you and Ford don’t agree. Do you think this might say something about Ford’s commitment to the environment?