# Full Synthetic 0W-20 engine oil change interval

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/full-synthetic-0w-20-engine-oil-change-interval/109363>\
**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Created:** [November 13, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/full-synthetic-0w-20-engine-oil-change-interval/109363 "2017-11-13T17:24:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 3:04am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/full-synthetic-0w-20-engine-oil-change-interval/109363/342 "2017-12-05T03:04:00Z")

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339 and rolling along. The only time I have flagged is when we had that troll late at night with pages of foreign junk, and if someone is really off base language wise. The thing is flags go on your permanent record until there is a crash or change-over again and we all start over. Not that it makes any difference but I consider flags kinda like calling the police on your neighbor. Only under dire circumstances. Too bad though, I do enjoy the occasional dancing legs vids.

When we were kids we could have some real knock down drag out disagreements but the next day we were all ok again (unless our parents got involved).

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**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 11:11am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/full-synthetic-0w-20-engine-oil-change-interval/109363/343 "2017-12-05T11:11:06Z")

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> [@cdaquila](#):
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> or allegations of tinfoil-hat wearing…

It’s not just an allegation,I like my tin foil hat, although it’s more a helmet than a hat.;).

 ![20170821_074654](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/2X/7/73ece8601ae71b18a163bf9fa8ccd8cf45573dfa.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 1:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/full-synthetic-0w-20-engine-oil-change-interval/109363/344 "2017-12-05T13:26:01Z")

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I don’t wear a tin foil hat. I just crumple two pieces of aluminum foil and stuff them in my undershorts.  
It defeats the Galactic Gravity Shelf’s sensor rays. In case they send their laser death squad for me, I put fresh coffee grounds in each corner of my home. The aroma deranges their senses.

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**Author:** ![Rod-Knox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Rod-Knox](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rod-Knox)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 2:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/full-synthetic-0w-20-engine-oil-change-interval/109363/345 "2017-12-05T14:47:31Z")

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> [@Whitey](#):
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> I don’t wear a tin foil hat. I just crumple two pieces of aluminum foil and stuff them in my undershorts.  
> It defeats the Galactic Gravity Shelf’s sensor rays. In case they send their laser death squad for me, I put fresh coffee grounds in each corner of my home. The aroma deranges their senses.

So can I replace my garlic with coffee grounds?

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**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 3:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/full-synthetic-0w-20-engine-oil-change-interval/109363/346 "2017-12-05T15:47:17Z")

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Are you warding off vampires or the Galactic Gravity Shelf? Maybe you should do both.

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**Author:** ![sgtrock21](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/sgtrock21/32/246_2.png) [@sgtrock21](https://community.cartalk.com/u/sgtrock21)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 4:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/full-synthetic-0w-20-engine-oil-change-interval/109363/347 "2017-12-05T16:40:24Z")

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I thought my reply was obvious enough that I did not have to add (sarcasm). I tend to forget that some people have no sense of humor.

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**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/full-synthetic-0w-20-engine-oil-change-interval/109363/348 "2017-12-05T16:50:55Z")

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If your intent is to attack Carolyn, saying she doesn’t have a sense of humor, that’s uncalled for. Sarcasm often doesn’t come across in text, and that is not a sign of a lacking sense of humor.

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**Author:** ![sgtrock21](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/sgtrock21/32/246_2.png) [@sgtrock21](https://community.cartalk.com/u/sgtrock21)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/full-synthetic-0w-20-engine-oil-change-interval/109363/349 "2017-12-05T17:30:45Z")

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My reply to Carolyn had absolutely nothing to do with her reading comprehension or sense of humor.

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**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 1:24am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/full-synthetic-0w-20-engine-oil-change-interval/109363/350 "2017-12-08T01:24:19Z")

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 6:30am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/full-synthetic-0w-20-engine-oil-change-interval/109363/351 "2017-12-08T06:30:01Z")

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Well I noticed no one around but been too busy setting tile.

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**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2017, 10:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/full-synthetic-0w-20-engine-oil-change-interval/109363/352 "2017-12-17T22:31:09Z")

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Just an update to an old thread that generated quite a discussion here.

Last month we bought a brand new GM product with 8 miles on it. Last night I was driving, noticed the car had 880 miles on it. I scrolled through the readout and found the oil life is now at 77%. Meaning that at this rate the car will be ready for an oil change service at around 4000 miles. The car uses 5W30 meeting dexos specification.

I imagine a great many people have the same driving habits as my wife. Start the car and drive 8 miles to work. The drive home might involve an errand or two or picking up a kid from ballet. Maybe a 100 mile round trip on a weekend visit somewhere. Anyway, a mix of city and highway driving. It will be interesting to see how the oil life changes as we make a 2000 mile round trip the week after Christmas.

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**Author:** ![Waterbuff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f07891/32.png) [@Waterbuff](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Waterbuff)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/full-synthetic-0w-20-engine-oil-change-interval/109363/353 "2017-12-18T00:56:59Z")

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Thanks!  
And interesting that GM doesn’t have something like a first oil&filter change at 2000 miles before settling into the recommended miles/time.

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**Author:** ![insightful](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/insightful/32/2732_2.png) [@insightful](https://community.cartalk.com/u/insightful)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 2:37am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/full-synthetic-0w-20-engine-oil-change-interval/109363/354 "2017-12-18T02:37:14Z")

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> [@Waterbuff](#):
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> And interesting that GM doesn’t have something like a first oil&filter change at 2000 miles before settling into the recommended miles/time.

Which car companies do this?

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**Author:** ![Waterbuff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f07891/32.png) [@Waterbuff](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Waterbuff)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 2:50am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/full-synthetic-0w-20-engine-oil-change-interval/109363/355 "2017-12-18T02:50:24Z")

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> [@First oil change supposed to be sooner than the regular interval?](https://community.cartalk.com/t/first-oil-change-supposed-to-be-sooner-than-the-regular-interval/92335):
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> I just got a new car and it has about 2500 miles on it. I have heard that the first oil change should come sooner than the regular oil change interval for the rest of the car’s life. For example, the manual says to change the oil every 6000 miles. However, This theory would say that i should change it at 3000 for the first oil change, and every 6000 miles thereafter. Is this theory true at all and could I change my oil sooner for the first time? It’s a 2016 Subaru outback that takes 0w-30 synthe…

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**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 5:47am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/full-synthetic-0w-20-engine-oil-change-interval/109363/356 "2017-12-18T05:47:14Z")

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If anything the first oil change should be based on the oil life monitor and no sooner. I don’t know if GM does this but Honda uses a different oil at assembly than at subsequent changes. There are additives that aid in the break-in of the engine. Whether they are effective or not I don’t know. But I do know people have come in for an oil change with only 2500 miles on the car and have been turned away and told to come back when the OLM reads 15%.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 7:38am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/full-synthetic-0w-20-engine-oil-change-interval/109363/357 "2017-12-18T07:38:44Z")

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I consulted with the Acura dealer on the first oil change. I wanted to change at 5000 miles which was about 50 on the meter. They had no problem with that for the first oil change. Done the same with three Acuras now. Back in 74 though, I did change the Olds oil at 2000 and that seemed to be recommended back then for the first oil change if I remember correctly.

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**Author:** ![keith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/keith/32/5518_2.png) [@keith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/keith)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 12:59am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/full-synthetic-0w-20-engine-oil-change-interval/109363/358 "2017-12-19T00:59:28Z")

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Subaru recommends the first oil change at 3000 miles.

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**Author:** ![insightful](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/insightful/32/2732_2.png) [@insightful](https://community.cartalk.com/u/insightful)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 1:56am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/full-synthetic-0w-20-engine-oil-change-interval/109363/359 "2017-12-19T01:56:18Z")

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Not according to this:

 ![Picture 1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/2X/6/61211801a8526b0c00f8d50ae6ab8b0fe610d61a.png)

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**Author:** ![keith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/keith/32/5518_2.png) [@keith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/keith)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 2:18am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/full-synthetic-0w-20-engine-oil-change-interval/109363/360 "2017-12-19T02:18:41Z")

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They did in 2014.

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