# Fragile bumper covers **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Tags:** fusion, ford\ **Created:** [April 4, 2021, 4:33pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fragile-bumper-covers/175984 "2021-04-04T16:33:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 9:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fragile-bumper-covers/175984/63 "2021-04-08T21:49:18Z")
> [@Renegade](#): > > I also think all vehicles should have warning beeper when in reverse +1 But, let us not forget that there are those who think that this type of requirement would be an example of _The Nanny State_. Back in “the good old days” those who were run over would have “died like men”… whatever that means… 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 9:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fragile-bumper-covers/175984/64 "2021-04-08T21:50:53Z")
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**Author:** ![Renegade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Renegade](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Renegade)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 9:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fragile-bumper-covers/175984/65 "2021-04-08T21:53:39Z")
[quote="Whitey, post:62, I’ll take a hard pass on that. I am not crazy about the idea but after a a few inatentive people get hit I think it will come to pass. I am not crazy about tht idea but I think it will come. ---
**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 9:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fragile-bumper-covers/175984/66 "2021-04-08T21:56:23Z")
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**Author:** ![Renegade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Renegade](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Renegade)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 9:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fragile-bumper-covers/175984/67 "2021-04-08T21:59:59Z")
I am lucky enough to live in the middle of the woods in a very rural area with a long driveway I can just barley hear what few cars go by on the road when I am outside but am far enough off the not to be able to see them. ---
**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 10:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fragile-bumper-covers/175984/68 "2021-04-08T22:00:27Z")
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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 10:03pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fragile-bumper-covers/175984/69 "2021-04-08T22:03:34Z")
> [@VDCdriver](#): > > But, let us not forget that there are those who think that this type of requirement would be an example of _The Nanny State_ . Well I’m with @Whitey on this one. I’d have to walk around with a wire cutter in my pocket. I’d even go for a strobe light or something like the shopping cart machines have, but you can hear those alarms a block away. ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 10:04pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fragile-bumper-covers/175984/70 "2021-04-08T22:04:26Z")
The beeping of a thousand delivery vehicles backing up would be a lot of noise pollution, passenger cars don’t need a loud warning device. Toyota and Lexus hybrid vehicles since 2017 have a vehicle proximity alert tone to warn pedestrians and bicyclists, not as obnoxious as the garbage truck. ---
**Author:** ![Renegade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Renegade](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Renegade)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 10:04pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fragile-bumper-covers/175984/71 "2021-04-08T22:04:48Z")
It is I would not trade it for anything. ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 10:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fragile-bumper-covers/175984/72 "2021-04-08T22:05:26Z")
And you want to put noise makers on all of the cars? How would that serve you? ---
**Author:** ![Renegade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Renegade](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Renegade)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 10:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fragile-bumper-covers/175984/73 "2021-04-08T22:18:40Z")
I take it back maybe not a beeper but for the EV’s some kind of a noisemaker like maybe the sound of a muffler when in reverse I did not think it out all the way when I said beeper. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 10:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fragile-bumper-covers/175984/74 "2021-04-08T22:28:58Z")
> [@Whitey](#): > > Had their cars been beeping, I believe the odds of them colliding would have been the same. Undoubtedly, but if a pedestrian had the misfortune to have been walking in back of one of those clueless drivers, that pedestrian could have been given an audible warning–and **that** is the intent of a backup beeper. > [@Whitey](#): > > a white Prius rolled back into my car, in spite of me honking the horn and yelling at the guy to stop. Had his car been beeping, the outcome would have been the same. Without question, but those backup beepers were intended to warn pedestrians. If you were honking your horn and that clueless driver still hit your car, no electronic device would be able to improve his/her dangerous driving. ---
**Author:** ![thegreendrag0n](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/thegreendrag0n/32/9265_2.png) [@thegreendrag0n](https://community.cartalk.com/u/thegreendrag0n)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 12:45pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fragile-bumper-covers/175984/75 "2021-04-09T12:45:40Z")
> [@Renegade](#): > > I also think all vehicles should have warning beeper when in reverse a while back I almost got hit by a EV backing out of a parking space because I could not hear it and did not realize it was moving I took a stroll last night and it was a RAV4 crossing our path on a pedestrian walk, definitely a hybrid going in electric mode. It was audible enough to be detectable, but the “engine” sound was not exactly good in simulating the engine sound, it was quite artificial, yet clearly served the purpose. Toyota pretends it is the engine sound… yet my Honda does not even go for that pretense and uses totally artificial “starglider battleship sound”, definitely a head-turner 🙂 Still… beeping? Not really sure it’s a good idea. ---
**Author:** ![Renegade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Renegade](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Renegade)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fragile-bumper-covers/175984/76 "2021-04-09T16:46:23Z")
[quote STILL—beeping? Not really sure it’s a good idea. If you will check post 70 you will see that I changed my mind about the beeping I had a brain f+rt when I said that but I still say they need to make some kind of noise as all peolje are not paying attention to what is around them and usually have their minds elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 4:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fragile-bumper-covers/175984/77 "2021-04-09T16:54:57Z")
Can’t you select the sound on a Mustang? I thought I read that. My favorite would be the sound of a 57 Ford or maybe the crackle from a Jag. So at the gas station they could just let it run in simulated engine sound instead of the woofers. (Now that was stupid. They wouldn’t be at a gas station except maybe for snacks.) ---
**Author:** ![thegreendrag0n](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/thegreendrag0n/32/9265_2.png) [@thegreendrag0n](https://community.cartalk.com/u/thegreendrag0n)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fragile-bumper-covers/175984/78 "2021-04-09T17:49:46Z")
agree, and I recall “some kind of simulated noise” was supposed to be mandated from the certain model year (?) ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 6:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fragile-bumper-covers/175984/79 "2021-04-09T18:49:45Z")
Japan started with electric vehicle warning sounds in 2010. The United States; _The [U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration issued its final ruling in February 2018, and requires the device to emit warning sounds when travelling at speeds less than 18.6 mph (30 km/h) with compliance by September 2020, but 50% of “quiet” vehicles must have the warning sounds by September 2019._ > **[Electric vehicle warning sounds](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_vehicle_warning_sounds)** > > Electric vehicle warning sounds are sounds designed to alert pedestrians to the presence of electric drive vehicles such as hybrid electric vehicles (HEVs), plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs), and all-electric vehicles (EVs) travelling at low speeds. Warning sound devices were deemed necessary by some government regulators because vehicles operating in all-electric mode produce less noise than traditional combustion engine vehicles and can make it more difficult for pedestrians and cyclis... ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fragile-bumper-covers/175984/80 "2021-04-09T18:53:21Z")
OK I’ll stop but it is Friday and the weekly Ammo Girl hilarious column as usual getting things wound up, but we used to put baseball cards or even balloons on out bikes to simulate a 57 Ford. ---
**Author:** ![Rod-Knox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Rod-Knox](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rod-Knox)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 1:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fragile-bumper-covers/175984/81 "2021-04-10T13:15:49Z")
Did you learn how to tighten spokes after enjoying the VROOOOM? Or was it a BUZZZ? ---
**Author:** ![byline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/byline/32/1554_2.png) [@byline](https://community.cartalk.com/u/byline)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 1:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fragile-bumper-covers/175984/82 "2021-04-10T13:55:05Z")
> [@Whitey](#): > > No camera is as sensitive as the human eye. If it’s a wide-angle camera, it makes things look farther away than they are, and if it’s not a wide-angle camera, it cuts out things you can see in your peripheral vision when your vision isn’t blocked by your trunk, your rear headrests, and the B and C pillars. You make a good point. If I have a backup camera, to be used as a _backup_ to my own senses, good. That would have helped me in the situation I described at the start of this thread, when I was backing up into a parking space against a wall, along which a shallow snow bank had built up. There reached a point where I couldn’t see the snow bank, because the top of it was at the level of my bumpers. A backup camera would have let me know I was getting too close. But even with the backup camera, I prefer backing into those spaces and relying as much as I can on my eyesight. If I can pull forward into a second adjoining space in front of me, so much the better. I do that frequently. But that’s not an option for the employee parking spaces I use. [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fragile-bumper-covers/175984.md?page=3) [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fragile-bumper-covers/175984.md?page=5)