# Fort Collins, Colorado, installing speed cameras around the city this fall **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 22, 2024, 2:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fort-collins-colorado-installing-speed-cameras-around-the-city-this-fall/195905 "2024-08-22T14:05:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Robert-Gift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/robert-gift/32/356_2.png) [@Robert-Gift](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Robert-Gift)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 2:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fort-collins-colorado-installing-speed-cameras-around-the-city-this-fall/195905/1 "2024-08-22T14:05:40Z")
[https://kdvr.com/news/local/fort-collins-installing-speed-cameras-around-the-city-this-fall/](https://kdvr.com/news/local/fort-collins-installing-speed-cameras-around-the-city-this-fall/) ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 3:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fort-collins-colorado-installing-speed-cameras-around-the-city-this-fall/195905/2 "2024-08-22T15:25:09Z")
If it changes drivers behavior then good. Was shot down in Minnesota. Pussy judge said there is no proof car owner is/was driving. Lots of cars get loaned out in Minnesota. I think car owner should get ticket. Crazy idea. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fort-collins-colorado-installing-speed-cameras-around-the-city-this-fall/195905/3 "2024-08-22T15:38:17Z")
> [@Cavell](#): > > I think car owner should get ticket. Crazy idea. That violates the 6th amendment of the Constitution. The “get around” is to make it a civil offense rather than a criminal one. It makes enforcing and collecting the fine more difficult. Outlines the legal problems… [https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/457790-red-light-cameras-undermine-rule-of-law/](https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/457790-red-light-cameras-undermine-rule-of-law/) Shows its been declared unconstitutional in state supreme court… > **[Enforcing Traffic Laws with Red-Light and Speed Cameras](https://www.ncsl.org/transportation/enforcing-traffic-laws-with-red-light-and-speed-cameras)** > > Red-light cameras and speed cameras allow state and local governments and law enforcement agencies to remotely capture images of drivers violating traffic laws. Some states authorize these tools use while others limit their use or ban them... ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 3:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fort-collins-colorado-installing-speed-cameras-around-the-city-this-fall/195905/4 "2024-08-22T15:56:36Z")
And if you’re stopped by a cop instead, watch out if you’re using electronic ID (this might also apply to electronic insurance cards): [Handing A Cop Your Digital Driver’s License Can Lead To An All-Out Search Of Your Phone (jalopnik.com)](https://jalopnik.com/handing-a-cop-your-digital-drivers-license-can-lead-to-1851628441) ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fort-collins-colorado-installing-speed-cameras-around-the-city-this-fall/195905/5 "2024-08-22T15:58:28Z")
I’ve watched cars in Cedar Rapids Iowa crawl along at 45 on a six lane highway because of the speed cameras. My personal belief is that it is more for revenue than safety. These are usually set up by third party vendors and just give the community a cut on the winnings. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fort-collins-colorado-installing-speed-cameras-around-the-city-this-fall/195905/6 "2024-08-22T16:51:30Z")
> [@bing](#): > > These are usually set up by third party vendors and just give the community a cut on the winnings. Studies have shown municipalities “adjusting” yellow timing to increase red-light camera revenue to keep the sub-contractor happy. Not to improve safety… to make sure the sub is flush with cash! > **[Study Evaluates Options For Increasing Red Light Camera Revenue](https://www.thenewspaper.com/news/41/4179.asp)** > > University of Tennessee researchers examine techniques used to bolster revenue from automated ticketing machines. ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fort-collins-colorado-installing-speed-cameras-around-the-city-this-fall/195905/7 "2024-08-22T16:51:34Z")
The right to know who your accusers are. The camera has pic of your car speeding. The camera is impartial. It takes pic of car exceeding speed limit. It does not judge. It provides evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 4:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fort-collins-colorado-installing-speed-cameras-around-the-city-this-fall/195905/8 "2024-08-22T16:55:12Z")
> [@Cavell](#): > > It takes pic of car exceeding speed limit. It does not judge. It provides evidence It provides evidence of the CAR speeding, not the driver. The ticket is sent to the car’s owner. The owner has a right not to self-incriminate. The state has the requirement to prove who was the actual driver of the car at that time and ticket THEM and not just the car’s owner. ---
**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fort-collins-colorado-installing-speed-cameras-around-the-city-this-fall/195905/9 "2024-08-22T17:01:41Z")
If speed cameras are installed, expect an increase in rear end collisions. Some drivers will slam on their braker at the yellow abd other drivers will try to make it through. The companies that promise to install cameras for free will require that yellow lights be shortened if revenues do not meet expectations. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 6:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fort-collins-colorado-installing-speed-cameras-around-the-city-this-fall/195905/10 "2024-08-22T18:30:49Z")
Some of us have an extreme fear of stasi like totalitarian tactics, especially being in Minnesota where one radio personality claimed that nothing at all is allowed. We don’t like snitch lines to report a neighbor, etc. taken to extremes, why not have your car calling the authorities when your fasten seat belt light is on? Or as is being discussed, speed limiters. How about turning the heat up in the winter higher than recommended, easily determined with the new electronic meters. Once you go down this path, there is no end to wthat could be controlled “for your own safety or the safety of others”. Chevron comes to mind. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 9:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fort-collins-colorado-installing-speed-cameras-around-the-city-this-fall/195905/11 "2024-08-22T21:48:45Z")
One of the Columbo tv episodes had this as a clue-topic. The man Columbo thinks committed the crime in LA receives a letter in the mail from Pasadena city hall, a speeding ticket enclosed from a traffic camera, and the suspect’s photo, he’s shown in the photo in the driver’s seat to be driving the car over the speed limit. The man tells Colombo this proves he couldn’t have done the crime, b/c the crime was committed at the same time, but 30 miles away. Colombo is having none of it of course, and eventually discovers the person driving the car was actually a woman, wearing a mask to make her look like the man. ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 12:03am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fort-collins-colorado-installing-speed-cameras-around-the-city-this-fall/195905/12 "2024-08-23T00:03:59Z")
The driver should get the ticket, not the car owner… Coming back from a road trip a few years ago, my buddy was driving my car and got his 1st ever ticket for doing about 93, he had just slowed down a bit and then was lit up… It was on the Cumberland Parkway with very little if any traffic, so nobody needs to freak out over it… ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 12:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/fort-collins-colorado-installing-speed-cameras-around-the-city-this-fall/195905/13 "2024-08-23T12:19:00Z")
> [@Mustangman](#): > > Studies have shown municipalities “adjusting” yellow timing to increase red-light camera revenue to keep the sub-contractor happy. That is true, and it is the reason why NJ banned red light cameras ~10 years ago when it was found that some municipalities were gouging motorists. But, this thread is about _speed_ cameras, not red light cameras. NYC began installing speed cameras a couple of years ago, chiefly in school zones. More recently, they have begun to expand the program into non-school areas, as a result of an alarming up-tick in fatal pedestrian/car incidents. > **[speed-camera-faq.pdf](https://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/speed-camera-faq.pdf)** > > 107.71 KB