# Formula One and Nascar **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 6, 2026, 3:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/formula-one-and-nascar/205300 "2026-03-06T15:22:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2026, 6:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/formula-one-and-nascar/205300/21 "2026-03-08T18:59:02Z")
> [@Mustangman](#): > > Apple Tv can be had for $99 + tax if you sign up for a year instead of monthly. If you have T-Mobile Apple TV costs only $3/mo. Plus with T-Mobile you don’t pay anything for Netflix, Hulu, MLB Tv. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2026, 7:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/formula-one-and-nascar/205300/22 "2026-03-08T19:21:03Z")
The point is, you have to spend money to watch what we used to watch for free (OTA broadcast) or at least as part of cable TV packages. Remember those days? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2026, 7:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/formula-one-and-nascar/205300/23 "2026-03-08T19:28:25Z")
> [@texases](#): > > To put it a different way, no ‘stock car’ based bodies/engines have been used since at least the ‘90s, right? When someone mentions “stock car racing” these are the types of cars that come to mind for me. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/0/6/0601d236cf4f11818e7802457c45c541556ca825.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2026, 9:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/formula-one-and-nascar/205300/24 "2026-03-08T21:05:34Z")
What needs to be established is in what decade, at least, ‘stock’ race cars began to become less than 50 percent stock. The cars in VDC’s collage appear all to be at least 70-80 percent stock. ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2026, 9:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/formula-one-and-nascar/205300/25 "2026-03-08T21:19:07Z")
Those are dirt track/short track cars. Our local short track is still open, with three classes of stock body cars plus two NASCAR classes and modifieds. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/8/6/86698630f2096bf36a773129ad2eeb2bea3c21ff.jpeg) Has anyone been to a race in the last fifty years? ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2026, 10:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/formula-one-and-nascar/205300/26 "2026-03-08T22:31:32Z")
> [@Nevada\_545](#): > > Those are dirt track/short track cars. The town where I spent most of my childhood still had a dirt oval track, as late as the mid '50s, and those races were advertised as “stock car” events. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2026, 10:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/formula-one-and-nascar/205300/27 "2026-03-08T22:56:44Z")
Unless one is a fossil like me, they don’t realize that Nascar was born on dirt! ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2026, 12:26am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/formula-one-and-nascar/205300/28 "2026-03-09T00:26:43Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > Remember those days? Of course I did. Pay attention. I was one of the ones pointing it out. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2026, 2:55am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/formula-one-and-nascar/205300/29 "2026-03-09T02:55:33Z")
@ChrisTheTireWhisperer please stop talking about being a “fossil” . . . To use YOUR words 🫵🏽 You don’t have a monopoly on being old(er) I personally suspect you’re far younger than you’d like us to believe, fwiw Also please stop insinuating only YOU are knowledgeable about certain subjects ---
**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2026, 3:17am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/formula-one-and-nascar/205300/30 "2026-03-09T03:17:28Z")
There are enough other things to watch on tv to not pay blackmai lfor subscriptions. Bye, Bye F1. If enough people are willing to buy Apple tv, it will be successful, but not with my money. ---
**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2026, 3:27am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/formula-one-and-nascar/205300/31 "2026-03-09T03:27:15Z")
Th`re are still local tracks in Western NY, both dirt and paved but all the guys I used to go with have diedbut I can't drive far any` `more`and not at hight. I usesd to be able to get some short track racing on MAV TV with an antenna but not in the building I have been living in for the last 2+years. I prefer short track racing to anything available onregular cable. Th` only thing in auto racing on my cable is the Indycar Ovals. zno gimmicks to pass needed.` ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2026, 4:37am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/formula-one-and-nascar/205300/32 "2026-03-09T04:37:08Z")
> [@oldtimer-11](#): > > F-1 now requires Apple TV to watch in the US. Not worth it to me to see them play follow the leader. I was getting interested in the Craftsman Truck series The Craftsman Truck series moved to pay channels 20 years ago, just when I was interested in watching local drivers who had the opportunity to drive in the truck series. I watched some races in a local sports bar on Fridays after work, I never paid for sports channels at home. I used to get free tickets to the truck series races when I worked for Dodge dealers, one time I watched the race from the pits when Jason Leffler was racing. As for engines, Mopar discontinued their race program 17 years ago so the time being there are no NASCAR grade engine blocks, crankshafts or cylinder heads for the race teams. Spec engine racing is an opportunity to get the name back into racing. > [@VDCdriver](#): > > The town where I spent most of my childhood still had a dirt oval track, as late as the mid '50s, and those races were advertised as “stock car” events. That was long ago, they may have been the first to fail. In the 1970’s those cars were classified as _Sportsman_ series, more for entertainment. _Late Models_ were the leading series and more competitive. > [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > Unless one is a fossil like me, they don’t realize that Nascar was born on dirt! Do you attend many dirt track races? ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2026, 6:04am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/formula-one-and-nascar/205300/33 "2026-03-09T06:04:23Z")
> [@Nevada\_545](#): > > Do you attend many dirt track races? Does it matter? At least I know the history. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2026, 1:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/formula-one-and-nascar/205300/34 "2026-03-09T13:10:58Z")
> [@db4690](#): > > please stop talking about being a “fossil” . . . To use YOUR words I wouldn’t call him old. He’s about 15-20 years younger than I am. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2026, 1:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/formula-one-and-nascar/205300/35 "2026-03-09T13:12:27Z")
> [@oldtimer-11](#): > > If enough people are willing to buy Apple tv And right now, there are. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2026, 1:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/formula-one-and-nascar/205300/36 "2026-03-09T13:52:23Z")
> [@MikeInNH](#): > > If you have T-Mobile Apple TV costs only $3/mo. > > Plus with T-Mobile you don’t pay anything for Netflix, Hulu, MLB Tv I have the top T-Mobile home internet plan +2 phones in my area. It includes Hulu and Paramount+ for free but no discounts on Apple Tv or Netflix. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2026, 1:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/formula-one-and-nascar/205300/37 "2026-03-09T13:53:53Z")
> [@MikeInNH](#): > > I wouldn’t call him old. He’s about 15-20 years younger than I am. I can’t explain it Mike. I ‘feel’ older, in the mind that is. I have the preferences for the lifestyles and products used by people born well before my actual birth year. That’s why I think I may be a ‘slider’. There was a TV show back in the 2000s or 1990s called that, “Sliders”. Only I didn’t know what it was about (time travel) or watch it much, in its heyday. I don’t say things like “I prefer standard time over Daylight saving” or “CRT over flat screen” or narrower tires to goad anyone or annoy them. These are actually who I am, Mike. I _tolerate_ the lifestyle and tech of this time, the 2010s and 2020s, I even use some of the tech, but it’s not really who I am. That’s why you’ll typically find me at flea markets and estate sales when I’m not working. It’s a connection to what is for many of you ‘the past’. But for me, it’s reality. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2026, 1:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/formula-one-and-nascar/205300/38 "2026-03-09T13:54:07Z")
> [@Mustangman](#): > > I have the top T-Mobile home internet plan +2 phones in my area. It includes Hulu and Paramount+ for free but no discounts on Apple Tv or Netflix. Must be the region you’re in. [Get Our Best Live TV & Streaming Service Deals | T-Mobile](https://www.t-mobile.com/tv-streaming) ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2026, 2:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/formula-one-and-nascar/205300/39 "2026-03-09T14:53:36Z")
Turns out it is the plan… I did a little research. We own our phones. We are not on the much more expensive Best Experience plan that provides the phones. Rents the phone, payment plan..however you view it. But I do like the 5G home internet. T Mobile is installing fiber in my neighborhood. Can’t wait for that! ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2026, 3:08pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/formula-one-and-nascar/205300/40 "2026-03-09T15:08:40Z")
We have AT&T fiber internet (WIFI ?) and T Mobile phone service, so I really don’t want to downgrade to 5G internet, all but one devise in the house is on WIFI, T Mobile fiber is not on the list for our area anytime soon… [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/formula-one-and-nascar/205300.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/formula-one-and-nascar/205300.md?page=3)