# Forgot this when I did my brakes, essential? **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Tags:** ion, saturn\ **Created:** [April 7, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/forgot-this-when-i-did-my-brakes-essential/115177 "2018-04-07T19:54:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jb79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@jb79](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jb79)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/forgot-this-when-i-did-my-brakes-essential/115177/1 "2018-04-07T19:54:48Z")
Hi all, I replaced by calipers, rotors, and pads yesterday. I noticed I forgot this piece. How essential ![sfsf](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/2X/2/2b242ae44ab3daac4c4a05bcf908a50fe185ec90.png) is it? ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/forgot-this-when-i-did-my-brakes-essential/115177/2 "2018-04-07T20:02:18Z")
That’s the brake pad retaining clip. [https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4490664&cc=1433443&jsn=359](https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4490664&cc=1433443&jsn=359) Those hold the brake pads to the caliper brackets. Without them the brake pads will rattle. Tester ---
**Author:** ![jb79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@jb79](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jb79)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/forgot-this-when-i-did-my-brakes-essential/115177/3 "2018-04-07T20:06:09Z")
> [@Tester](#): > > brake pad retaining clip I thought that’s what these were? I didn’t forget them ![AC_US160](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/2X/d/db442f4ca0d275f10309479321eed07f418fccde.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/forgot-this-when-i-did-my-brakes-essential/115177/4 "2018-04-07T20:07:34Z")
That is the wear indicator, it rubs on the rotor to make a noise when the brake pads have worn to 1 mm. ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/forgot-this-when-i-did-my-brakes-essential/115177/5 "2018-04-07T20:11:32Z")
Then it appears RockAuto has them labeled wrong. [https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/saturn,2005,ion,2.2l+l4,1431623,brake+&+wheel+hub,brake+pad+retaining+clip,12737](https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/saturn,2005,ion,2.2l+l4,1431623,brake+&+wheel+hub,brake+pad+retaining+clip,12737) Tester ---
**Author:** ![jb79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@jb79](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jb79)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/forgot-this-when-i-did-my-brakes-essential/115177/6 "2018-04-07T20:15:18Z")
Ok so I don’t have to rush out to my car to put them in? New pads, ceramic, so obviously not a huge issue. I can put them in next weekend when I do my drum shoes then bleed the brake lines and put new in. ---
**Author:** ![shanonia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@shanonia](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shanonia)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 8:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/forgot-this-when-i-did-my-brakes-essential/115177/7 "2018-04-07T20:21:03Z")
That should be OK. ---
**Author:** ![jb79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@jb79](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jb79)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/forgot-this-when-i-did-my-brakes-essential/115177/8 "2018-04-07T20:27:59Z")
That’s good. BTW I’m new here. This forum seems awesome. Go to most DIY sites with a question and it’s usually not populated enough to even get one reply in 24 hours. This took 30 minutes. Think I’ll stick around ---
**Author:** ![boilerengtn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/boilerengtn/32/6955_2.png) [@boilerengtn](https://community.cartalk.com/u/boilerengtn)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 8:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/forgot-this-when-i-did-my-brakes-essential/115177/9 "2018-04-07T20:55:11Z")
We’ll even give you advice and answers on questions you don’t even ask! Welcome to the CarTalk cult! ---
**Author:** ![shanonia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@shanonia](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shanonia)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/forgot-this-when-i-did-my-brakes-essential/115177/10 "2018-04-07T21:05:57Z")
Some find the Car Talk Community fast; some half… Welcome! ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/forgot-this-when-i-did-my-brakes-essential/115177/11 "2018-04-07T21:14:20Z")
Yeah the brake wear indicator. The theory is when the pads wear down enough that little clip causes a high pitched squeal when you put the brakes on so you know the pads are worn. To be truthful, I’ve never been able to hear the dang things so it wouldn’t matter to me. Just have to remember to check the pads once in a while like when you rotate tires. ---
**Author:** ![Yosemite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/yosemite/32/643_2.png) [@Yosemite](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Yosemite)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 2:14am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/forgot-this-when-i-did-my-brakes-essential/115177/12 "2018-04-09T02:14:15Z")
> [@jb79](#): > > BTW I’m new here. Welcome to the boards! By the way, I see that you are the 1,218.652 member and the bells went off. Congratulations, you have been chosen to host the 2018 “summer get together” at your house. Porterhouse steaks, lobster, shrimp and pulled pork is the norm. Normally everyone brings something to contribute to the day. I’ll bring the pepper!!! Keep us informed Yosemite ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 2:22am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/forgot-this-when-i-did-my-brakes-essential/115177/13 "2018-04-09T02:22:18Z")
Yeah I did it last year but no one showed up. Barky mumbled something about having to golf. ---
**Author:** ![NYBo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nybo/32/17281_2.png) [@NYBo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/NYBo)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 3:07am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/forgot-this-when-i-did-my-brakes-essential/115177/14 "2018-04-09T03:07:40Z")
Brake wear indicators are riveted to one or more brake pads. Those sure look like retaining clips to me. ---
**Author:** ![keith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/keith/32/5518_2.png) [@keith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/keith)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 6:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/forgot-this-when-i-did-my-brakes-essential/115177/15 "2018-04-09T18:20:26Z")
It is NOT the brake pad wear indicator, I believe they are the anti-rattle clips and they are essential to long pad life. No immediate danger but you do want to put them back in ASAP. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/forgot-this-when-i-did-my-brakes-essential/115177/16 "2018-04-09T18:26:52Z")
Yeah good point, my bad. It’s been a while since I did brakes but yeah the wear indicator is riveted. So I think its a good idea to open it up again and put them in. Wouldn’t be the first time-that’s how we learn, and it always goes faster the second time. ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 6:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/forgot-this-when-i-did-my-brakes-essential/115177/17 "2018-04-09T18:36:22Z")
The brake pads wear indicator goes on the leading edge of the inboard pad in the location shown below. It does not go in the caliper bracket slot. ![Saturn%20Ion%20front%20brake%20pads](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/2X/9/9d6a653e08e990af5a3ce2182310e326e4c492fd.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![jb79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@jb79](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jb79)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/forgot-this-when-i-did-my-brakes-essential/115177/18 "2018-04-09T18:47:33Z")
You sure they aren’t break pad indicators? I had nothing bolted to the pads as I’ve seen before. I noticed the old ones were longer, and also not bolted to the pad. ---
**Author:** ![Rod-Knox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Rod-Knox](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rod-Knox)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 6:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/forgot-this-when-i-did-my-brakes-essential/115177/19 "2018-04-09T18:48:32Z")
Put me down for the Gray Poupon and be sure to post the date and time @Yosemite. ---
**Author:** ![jb79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@jb79](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jb79)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/forgot-this-when-i-did-my-brakes-essential/115177/20 "2018-04-09T18:51:51Z")
Yeah, the spot on the break is exactly where the old one was [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/forgot-this-when-i-did-my-brakes-essential/115177.md?page=2)