# Ford goes BIG on electric vehicles

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 28, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-goes-big-on-electric-vehicles/179646 "2021-09-28T16:58:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 4:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-goes-big-on-electric-vehicles/179646/81 "2021-10-03T16:29:02Z")

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I don’t remember having any bomb drills in school but in the Army we were told to find a hole and cover ourselves with our ponchos. It was just science.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-goes-big-on-electric-vehicles/179646/82 "2021-10-03T17:50:29Z")

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> [@bing](#):
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> I don’t remember having any bomb drills in school

I guess that you’re younger than I am. We had essentially the same two types of Air Raid Drills in both NY and NJ schools when I was a kid.

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**Author:** ![weekend-warrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/weekend-warrior/32/26122_2.png) [@weekend-warrior](https://community.cartalk.com/u/weekend-warrior)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 7:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-goes-big-on-electric-vehicles/179646/83 "2021-10-03T19:57:55Z")

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yeah get under the desk. like that would really help. LOL  
Or we went in the hall and sat on the floor.

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**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 8:45pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-goes-big-on-electric-vehicles/179646/84 "2021-10-03T20:45:08Z")

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Our elementary school had the cafeteria in the basement, that is where the drills were held. Kneeling with our faces towards the wall.  
Turner Classic Movies occasionally runs the atomic attack PSA films of the 50s. The recommendations were essentially worthless, but I presume the purpose was to give the public hope survival was possible.  
At the MN State Fair in 1960 there were vendors selling backyard bomb shelters.

We sure drifted a long way away from electric vehicles!

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 8:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-goes-big-on-electric-vehicles/179646/85 "2021-10-03T20:48:25Z")

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> [@Purebred](#):
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> **The recommendations were essentially worthless** , but I presume the purpose was to give the public hope survival was possible.

+1

As this cartoon–which we were shown when I was a kid–informs us:  
“Even a piece of newspaper can protect you from serious burns”.  
Ummmm… yeah… sure… 🙄

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**Author:** ![Scrapyard-John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@Scrapyard-John](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Scrapyard-John)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 10:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-goes-big-on-electric-vehicles/179646/86 "2021-10-03T22:12:35Z")

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We were issued portable survival shelters when I fought wildfires. Basically, an aluminum foil tarp. You were supposed to put it behind your back, one edge under your heels, the other end you grasped with your hands and fell forward face down. The theory was you’d trap some air to breathe and the foil would reflect heat if you happened to be overtaken by the fire. Better than nothing, I guess. We practiced using them. Supposed to be able to deploy them within a set so many minutes or whatever. Because wildfires are on a strict schedule. 😁

Everyone referred to them as “ranger roasters”. 😂

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 12:32am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-goes-big-on-electric-vehicles/179646/87 "2021-10-04T00:32:53Z")

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Multilayered blankets with an outer reflective layer can work well as insulation for a while, but not indefinitely.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 2:40am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-goes-big-on-electric-vehicles/179646/88 "2021-10-04T02:40:29Z")

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> [@Purebred](#):
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> We sure drifted a long way away from electric vehicles!

Yeah kind of wore that topic out in my view.

We had a room under our double garage that I always figured was going to be the room of last resort. It had a concrete ceiling/garage floor, and block walls half underground. Only had one window so figured I’d have to hurry up and seal the window, move some beds in, get to the store for groceries, and load the guns. We weren’t a big target so figured we’d have an hour after the siren went off. Ha ha ha. Yeah right. Dad would have been right in the center of it unless at night. So if he survived and made it home, he’d have to know the secret knock in order to get let in. We wuz ready for the ruskies. Ready, fire, miss. Wrong country.

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 10:43am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-goes-big-on-electric-vehicles/179646/89 "2021-10-04T10:43:05Z")

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> [@bing](#):
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> I don’t remember having any bomb drills in school but in the Army

They’ve been doing bomb drills in schools since before the Cuban Missile Crisis.

> [@bing](#):
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> It was just science.

How to misinterpret the most simplest concept. The poncho wasn’t going to give you any protection from any blast. Maybe you should have listened to the instructor.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 11:29am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-goes-big-on-electric-vehicles/179646/90 "2021-10-04T11:29:45Z")

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> [@MikeInNH](#):
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> They’ve been doing bomb drills in schools since before the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Yes… Way before…  
I began attending school in 1953, and we were doing those drills at that time.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 2:22am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-goes-big-on-electric-vehicles/179646/91 "2021-10-06T02:22:18Z")

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Maybe they’ll do better with electric than ICE. In the paper today they reported that the Ford dealership in town has exactly two new vehicles on the lot. A Bronco and an F-150. Not a whole lot of choice. And sounded like they have shuttered a couple plants for want of chips.

GM isn’t a whole lot better. The local GM dealer said they have 50% of what they would normally have. I’m gonna treat my cars extra nice right now.

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 2:27am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-goes-big-on-electric-vehicles/179646/92 "2021-10-06T02:27:52Z")

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Saw an article about the car chip shortage-they need “antique “ chips, nobody wants to build a plant for them because of the terribly low yield. Old chip have big spacing, so few chips per silicon disk.

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**Author:** ![Triedaq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Triedaq](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Triedaq)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 2:31am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-goes-big-on-electric-vehicles/179646/93 "2021-10-06T02:31:11Z")

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@bing The situation today with dealers not having cars to sell is similar to the situation right after WW II. My parents saved a Time magazine that was published right after Japan surrendered. On the back cover was a Chevrolet advertisement. A 1942 Chevrolet was pictured and the advertisement said that new car production was starting up, but there would be a shortage for a while. In the meantime, motorists were given the advice: “conserve your present car”.

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 2:37am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-goes-big-on-electric-vehicles/179646/94 "2021-10-06T02:37:44Z")

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> [@Triedaq](#):
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> The situation today with dealers not having cars to sell is similar to the situation right after WW II

Yeah my dad had an old Willis that he kept together to drive from Wisconsin to Minnesota when he could. He told about losing his lights half way at night and driving the rest of the way with no lights. Had to get permission from the Col. in charge of Sturgeon Bay to buy a single tire. Orange crates for furniture in their apartment and every able bodied guy had two or three jobs to provide the labor needed. Still they had time for fishing.

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 10:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-goes-big-on-electric-vehicles/179646/95 "2021-10-06T22:29:57Z")

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The Honda dealer where we bought our cars has almost no cars in the lot. They have 12 2021s and 11 2022s.

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**Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 1:55am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-goes-big-on-electric-vehicles/179646/96 "2021-10-07T01:55:21Z")

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Well as they used to say where GM goes there goes the rest of the country.

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**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 2:14am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-goes-big-on-electric-vehicles/179646/97 "2021-10-07T02:14:46Z")

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They used say look at 3m to see how the country is doing, Lately not so good. GG Grandfather biggest chocolate factory west of the Missippi, Winona MN to be exact, used to load up his car in the late 1800s and drive out east to sell his chocolates, No ac so summer was out. Ramer’s Chocolate if you care. Abraham died, buried at the cemetery at the bottom of sugarloaf mountain, sons built a big building, bank foreclosed, got stock from 3m, as they turned it into an office. Thanks for listening.

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**Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 5:25am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-goes-big-on-electric-vehicles/179646/98 "2021-10-07T05:25:36Z")

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> [@Barkydog](#):
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> biggest chocolate factory west of the Missippi, Winona MN

Well barely west of the river. Watch your step or you’ll be in it. Took a Luther League group there for a retreat but no one drowned.

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**Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 12:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-goes-big-on-electric-vehicles/179646/99 "2021-10-07T12:42:23Z")

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> [@Barkydog](#):
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> his car in the late 1800

What kind of car?

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**Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 3:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-goes-big-on-electric-vehicles/179646/100 "2021-10-07T15:56:59Z")

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> [@bing](#):
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> Well as they used to say where GM goes there goes the rest of the country.

I believe the saying was “What’s good for GM is good for America”. A GM CEO said that, and it was part of their problem in keeping up with consumer desires. They went from being the premiere auto manufacturer in the world during to 1950s to bankruptcy in 2009. They had a lot of help from an inflexible union, but management was up to their necks in decades of missteps too.

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