# Ford E350 bus is on its 5th starter in one year!

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-e350-bus-is-on-its-5th-starter-in-one-year/75197>\
**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Created:** [October 27, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-e350-bus-is-on-its-5th-starter-in-one-year/75197 "2012-10-27T20:25:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![TN\_Moose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@TN\_Moose](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TN_Moose)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-e350-bus-is-on-its-5th-starter-in-one-year/75197/1 "2012-10-27T20:25:41Z")

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A 7.3L diesel E350 1989 shuttle bus eats starters! I’m installing the 5th one in one year. The hot leg into the starter on the starter cylinoid (not cylinoid on firewall) is melting. Has anyone experienced this? Any advice? Thanks!

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**Author:** ![ken\_green](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/ken_green/32/816_2.png) [@ken\_green](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ken_green)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 12:02am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-e350-bus-is-on-its-5th-starter-in-one-year/75197/2 "2012-10-28T00:02:36Z")

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From where are you buying the starters ?  
Are they warrantying them each time ?

Not common in this shop.  
Mechanic guesses a cheaper, or cheap, starter.  
Either the cheap solenoid can’t take the amperage or a cheaply built starter draws too much.

Could aslo be that age old engine is struggling to turn thereby drawing more amps from the starter to turn it.

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**Author:** ![JayWB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@JayWB](https://community.cartalk.com/u/JayWB)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 2:46am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-e350-bus-is-on-its-5th-starter-in-one-year/75197/3 "2012-10-28T02:46:50Z")

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How are the starters failing? What do you mean the hot leg is melting?

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**Author:** ![pleasedodgevan2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ad7895/32.png) [@pleasedodgevan2](https://community.cartalk.com/u/pleasedodgevan2)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 5:09am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-e350-bus-is-on-its-5th-starter-in-one-year/75197/4 "2012-10-28T05:09:49Z")

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When you say melting I say bad ground. Get the negative battery cable changed and make sure you have a ground wire between engine and body, even if you have to buy a battery type cable and use it as one. Then you wait and see.

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**Author:** ![RemcoW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/remcow/32/2471_2.png) [@RemcoW](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RemcoW)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 5:43am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-e350-bus-is-on-its-5th-starter-in-one-year/75197/5 "2012-10-28T05:43:52Z")

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Perhaps make sure you use brass washers and not steel ones. You may have too high of a contact resistance between the wire and the terminal. To high resistance drops too much voltage across the contact. With the starting currents being high, the power dissipated will be considerable as well.That is turned into heat.

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**Author:** ![TN\_Moose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@TN\_Moose](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TN_Moose)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 4:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-e350-bus-is-on-its-5th-starter-in-one-year/75197/6 "2012-10-28T16:48:00Z")

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I’ll check my grounds and connections, thanks for the tips. JayWB- I mean that it’s literally melting. And Ken Green, I’m getting them all over, I travel around the country for work, so anywhere the bus breaks down is where I buy it…napa, advance, etc.

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**Author:** ![oblivion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3ab097/32.png) [@oblivion](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oblivion)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 12:25am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-e350-bus-is-on-its-5th-starter-in-one-year/75197/7 "2012-10-29T00:25:26Z")

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Does it crank really slow when you start it in the morning, and do you have to crank it a long time to get it to start? It might be worth having the amp draw of the starter checked.

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**Author:** ![Rod-Knox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Rod-Knox](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rod-Knox)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 1:20am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ford-e350-bus-is-on-its-5th-starter-in-one-year/75197/8 "2012-10-29T01:20:13Z")

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High amp draw might be the cause. Check the voltage while the engine is cranking. If the voltage drops below 11 the amperage may be spiking to handle the current demand. One of the batteries may be weak.
