# First oil change 2024 Corolla

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/first-oil-change-2024-corolla/193588>\
**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Created:** [October 27, 2023, 5:02am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/first-oil-change-2024-corolla/193588 "2023-10-27T05:02:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 9:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/first-oil-change-2024-corolla/193588/101 "2023-10-31T21:19:16Z")

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> [@keith](#):
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> Toyota’s lifetime ATF (T-4) was not lifetime

Maybe by “lifetime” they mean no need to replace the fluid until the end of the transmission’s life? … lol …

Good points above about the proper finish care, especially to make sure the surface is clean and free of grit before applying any finishing/waxing products. It doesn’t take much time to clean and wax a Corolla, so any concerns about using power buffers can be eliminated by not using them.

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**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 11:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/first-oil-change-2024-corolla/193588/102 "2023-10-31T23:29:26Z")

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> [@keith](#):
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> 2003 Corolla LE (cheapest model)

CE (Classic Edition) was the (cheapest) base model in 2003 with smaller 185/65r15 tires…

LE (Luxury Edition) was the mid level trim with bigger 195/65r15 (same size wheels) and cruise control, power mirrors, and a CD player…

S (Sport) same size 195/65r15 but some other upgrades, I think some had leather shift knob and maybe wrapped steering wheel…

Earlier/later years had more trim levels…

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**Author:** ![D.J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@D.J](https://community.cartalk.com/u/D.J)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 12:25am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/first-oil-change-2024-corolla/193588/103 "2023-11-01T00:25:35Z")

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Yes thats what i was thinking that many detail shops train employees not to damage cars because they have some high end customers . The key is to look for shops with good reviews

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**Author:** ![keith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/keith/32/5518_2.png) [@keith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/keith)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 12:27am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/first-oil-change-2024-corolla/193588/104 "2023-11-01T00:27:53Z")

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You are right and hers was the CE. Memory, it’s the second thing to go.

CE = cheapest edition. When the original tires wore out, I replaced them with the 195/65r15 tires. Costco usually would not sell different size tires than the OEM, but they did in this case because there was another model with the bigger tires.

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**Author:** ![D.J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@D.J](https://community.cartalk.com/u/D.J)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 12:28am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/first-oil-change-2024-corolla/193588/105 "2023-11-01T00:28:19Z")

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Im not interested in doing anything more than “spot cleaning” by myself

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**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 1:11am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/first-oil-change-2024-corolla/193588/106 "2023-11-01T01:11:03Z")

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Even the older (\<2002) CE vs LE used 175/65r14 and 185/65r14, (my daughter 1st was a 2002 CE), I offered the bigger tire for the CE owners, sometimes even had better options…

Funny thing was I used to be pretty good with a lot of the trim levels… Remember some manufactures added a L for long version… Well the 1st time I saw a EXL Honda I thought that doesn’t look any longer of a wheel base than the EX models or others… Took me a little while before I figured out it meant Leather… Never was a big one for Googling things back then… 🤦‍♂️ 😁

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**Author:** ![D.J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@D.J](https://community.cartalk.com/u/D.J)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 3:47am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/first-oil-change-2024-corolla/193588/107 "2023-11-01T03:47:55Z")

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I had a CE. Hand crank windows.

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**Author:** ![LoudThunder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/loudthunder/32/27769_2.png) [@LoudThunder](https://community.cartalk.com/u/LoudThunder)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 5:50am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/first-oil-change-2024-corolla/193588/108 "2023-11-01T05:50:41Z")

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The Window Sticker from the wife’s 1985 Toyota Corolla with 230,000 miles on her (the car…)

 ![sticker](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/8/7/87dbfeb9b5fdc971525f69a3ac6d8115fedb04ab.jpeg)

 ![toy](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/d/3/d30ae7a672b881e31757e550323b00e5a6109766.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 2:13pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/first-oil-change-2024-corolla/193588/109 "2023-11-01T14:13:43Z")

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Ah, when windows actually allowed the driver to see outside…

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 2:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/first-oil-change-2024-corolla/193588/110 "2023-11-01T14:21:25Z")

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> [@texases](#):
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> Ah, when windows actually allowed the driver to see outside…

Must have LOVED the AMC Pacer! 😃

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 9:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/first-oil-change-2024-corolla/193588/111 "2023-11-01T21:39:38Z")

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> [@MikeInNH](#):
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> Must have LOVED the AMC Pacer!

This one sold for $37.4 k in 2016. Eventually became a possible purchase for the Pawn Stars tv show folks. I don’t know if they bought it or not though.

I’ve never wartched _Wayne’s World_. Should I? I’ve never watched even a single episode of _Friends_ either.

> **[The AMC Pacer from 'Wayne's World' Just Sold at Auction | Digital Trends](https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/waynes-world-amc-pacer-sold-at-auction/)**
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> The 1976 AMC Pacer from Wayne's World sold at the Barrett-Jackson auction in Last Vegas, selling for an unprecedented amount for a car like this.

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**Author:** ![D.J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@D.J](https://community.cartalk.com/u/D.J)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 9:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/first-oil-change-2024-corolla/193588/112 "2023-11-01T21:56:09Z")

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Why did cars without good visibility from the windows become a thing? They should bring it back where all cars have large square rear windows and thin C-pillars.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/first-oil-change-2024-corolla/193588/113 "2023-11-01T21:57:47Z")

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My guess, current window design yields better fleet mpg. There’s more gov’t regulations car manufacturers have to worry about concerning mpg than being able to see out the windows I expect.

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**Author:** ![Rainflurry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cab0a1/32.png) [@Rainflurry](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rainflurry)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 10:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/first-oil-change-2024-corolla/193588/114 "2023-11-01T22:39:19Z")

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The larger pillars, smaller windows and higher window lines are all about safety.

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**Author:** ![LoudThunder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/loudthunder/32/27769_2.png) [@LoudThunder](https://community.cartalk.com/u/LoudThunder)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 10:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/first-oil-change-2024-corolla/193588/115 "2023-11-01T22:50:46Z")

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> [@Rainflurry](#):
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> The larger pillars, smaller windows and higher window lines are all about safety.

I really think it’s an engineering thing. If you really look around, there are very few variations of design in the various makes and models. The automakers must make the vehicles (the ones that are not the hi-performance kind…) as fuel efficient as possible and the present designs seems to play into that. Besides making them more aerodynamic and all lookalikes.

They are lighter, with fewer structural members and the only way to keep the roof from collapsing onto the occupants during a rollover is to make the roof supports larger, hence, the windows smaller. Have you ever watched the YouTube videos of stupid drivers and notice how often small modern cars seems to roll over. I blame it on the unibody construction that has no heavy steel frame under the body.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 11:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/first-oil-change-2024-corolla/193588/116 "2023-11-01T23:02:20Z")

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And the higher center of gravity and big tires that are popular. I’ve seen more than one bounce over on its roof. Some folks like being up high.

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**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 11:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/first-oil-change-2024-corolla/193588/117 "2023-11-01T23:07:14Z")

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> [@D.J](#):
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> Why did cars without good visibility from the windows become a thing?

Aerodynamics for better mpg, and rollover and crash safety ratings.

It’s unfortunate that comfort, looks, and convenience have all taken a backseat to safety and efficiency. I’m afraid we’ll never have a truly attractive and comfortable car again.

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**Author:** ![D.J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@D.J](https://community.cartalk.com/u/D.J)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 11:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/first-oil-change-2024-corolla/193588/118 "2023-11-01T23:34:50Z")

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I heard that SUVs though are more prone to flipping over onto their roofs than sedans though due to that higher center of gravity. Give me a car like the 1984 Camry for body shape and rear/side visibility

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 11:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/first-oil-change-2024-corolla/193588/119 "2023-11-01T23:55:47Z")

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SUV flipping was a much bigger problem before stability control became standard.

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**Author:** ![D.J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@D.J](https://community.cartalk.com/u/D.J)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 1:48am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/first-oil-change-2024-corolla/193588/120 "2023-11-02T01:48:26Z")

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I don’t know, in my state, I still see SUVs flipped over on their roofs like every other day. I think it’s speeding, combined with hitting a curb and rolling over, maybe partly due to the higher center of gravity. I’m no engineer but I see SUVs on their roofs in traffic on the freeway in accidents almost every day here in Hawaii.

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