# 'Eyes on the road: Automated speed cameras get a fresh look' **URL:** \ **Category:** Safety\ **Created:** [February 17, 2024, 9:20am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/eyes-on-the-road-automated-speed-cameras-get-a-fresh-look/194393 "2024-02-17T09:20:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 4:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/eyes-on-the-road-automated-speed-cameras-get-a-fresh-look/194393/21 "2024-02-18T16:02:34Z")
I can’t even begin to remember all the people that I have asked to see their DL for X reason and they said all they had was an ID card… I would always look around like I was checking to see where the driver was, but I knew they were the ones driving, nothing you can really do about it… ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 7:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/eyes-on-the-road-automated-speed-cameras-get-a-fresh-look/194393/22 "2024-02-18T19:44:36Z")
> [@auto-owner](#): > > Fine the speed demons into bankruptcy. What if their weren’t speeding? ---
**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/eyes-on-the-road-automated-speed-cameras-get-a-fresh-look/194393/23 "2024-02-18T20:54:01Z")
Doesn’t matter. If the camera says you were speeding, then you were speeding. Good luck trying to prove any different. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/eyes-on-the-road-automated-speed-cameras-get-a-fresh-look/194393/24 "2024-02-18T21:07:57Z")
> [@cigroller](#): > > the company that sells them the equipment calibrates them. So there’s no real way to challenge this, I asked. Answer: not really. Seems problematic to throw someone into bankruptcy when they didn’t actually speed, the only evidence of speeding being a camera which can’t be challenged. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 9:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/eyes-on-the-road-automated-speed-cameras-get-a-fresh-look/194393/25 "2024-02-18T21:47:41Z")
That’s why Minnesota threw them out. People have a right to meet their accuser, and you can’t do that with a machine. Thing is you follow the money as they say and the money is with the folks that make sweet deals to provide the equipment. Everyone gets a cut of the profits. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 12:44am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/eyes-on-the-road-automated-speed-cameras-get-a-fresh-look/194393/26 "2024-02-19T00:44:29Z")
> [@davesmopar](#): > > I would always look around like I was checking to see where the driver was, but I knew they were the ones driving, nothing you can really do about it… Actually, there is something you can do. Get the license plate number, take a picture of the ID, and report them to the police. When the police see the car on the road they can stop it and see if the driver has a license or just an ID. In TN they may need a probable cause, and any non-functioning light should be enough to do the stop. Up to you whether you want to do this but it is an option. ---
**Author:** ![auto-owner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/50afbb/32.png) [@auto-owner](https://community.cartalk.com/u/auto-owner)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 4:16am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/eyes-on-the-road-automated-speed-cameras-get-a-fresh-look/194393/27 "2024-02-19T04:16:11Z")
I agree speed cameras are imperfect, but i really really want to see these speed demons slowed down. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 5:18am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/eyes-on-the-road-automated-speed-cameras-get-a-fresh-look/194393/28 "2024-02-19T05:18:37Z")
They pretty much don’t stop cars anymore for minor infractions in the twin cities area. Folks with expired license tags or lights out etc. used to generate people with warrants. Since the last shooting when the guy took off, the policy was changed. The arguement was that it discriminated against people that could not afford to pay their fines or renew their tabs. ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/eyes-on-the-road-automated-speed-cameras-get-a-fresh-look/194393/29 "2024-02-19T14:21:43Z")
> [@jtsanders](#): > > take a picture of the ID, Hard to do that when you are asking the custom for their DL just to type in a few numbers in the computer right in front of them, we did not photocopy it for any reason… I mean, would you let someone take a picture of your DL with their cell phone??? And why not?? I can think of one, **Identity Theft!!!** So not always as black and white as some think it is… ---
**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 4:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/eyes-on-the-road-automated-speed-cameras-get-a-fresh-look/194393/30 "2024-02-19T16:20:37Z")
> [@Hugemoth\_144444](#): > > the amount of the fine should be based on income. There’s an inherent flaw with the idea that I should pay more for something than you do just because you think I can afford it. The fine should be appropriate to the offense. Driving 62 in a 55? Meh. Driving 85 in a 55, sure, price goes up. Speeding tickets are not about safety, they are about generating income. If you want to keep people from speeding, put a state trooper on the highway driving the limit and ticket anyone who passes him. > [@It\_s-Me](#): > > Highway work zone speed cameras are coming to Washington state starting July 1, 2024. Yeah, that’s a great one, isn’t it? I travel through several work zones on 5 and 405 during my commute. At no time do I have the possibility of even reaching the speed limit, much less exceeding it. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 8:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/eyes-on-the-road-automated-speed-cameras-get-a-fresh-look/194393/31 "2024-02-19T20:51:44Z")
I don’t know if any repair shops make photocopies of DLs. When I took cars for test drives they photocopied my DL. Certainly they need that from me since I’m driving off in their $40,000 car and that is a big difference. Just thought I’d ask. ---
**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 9:37pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/eyes-on-the-road-automated-speed-cameras-get-a-fresh-look/194393/32 "2024-02-19T21:37:56Z")
> [@jtsanders](#): > > I don’t know if any repair shops make photocopies of DLs. When we provided customers with a loaner car while theirs was in for repairs we copied or took a pic of their driver license and proof of insurance. If we were replacing or programming new keys for a car/customer we didn’t know, we would ask for registration and driver’s license to ensure we weren’t making keys for someone who didn’t own the car. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/eyes-on-the-road-automated-speed-cameras-get-a-fresh-look/194393/33 "2024-02-19T22:50:52Z")
I think that is pretty standard practice. The Acura dealer said to bring the insurance card along. Body shops never asked for insurance though since they already had that obviously. ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 11:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/eyes-on-the-road-automated-speed-cameras-get-a-fresh-look/194393/34 "2024-02-19T23:29:22Z")
> [@jtsanders](#): > > I don’t know if any repair shops make photocopies of DLs. I was talking about repair shops… and we didn’t loan out cars, put them in a rental sometimes but no loaners. We had a great low rate with ERAC [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/eyes-on-the-road-automated-speed-cameras-get-a-fresh-look/194393.md?page=1)