# Experiencing repeated browser crashes **URL:** \ **Category:** Site Feedback\ **Created:** [August 31, 2018, 2:51am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/experiencing-repeated-browser-crashes/124063 "2018-08-31T02:51:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 2:51am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/experiencing-repeated-browser-crashes/124063/1 "2018-08-31T02:51:48Z")
when surfing this website’s forum areas. Started happening mid-July (2018). IE 11. No browser crashes at any other website during that same period. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 12:33pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/experiencing-repeated-browser-crashes/124063/2 "2018-08-31T12:33:55Z")
Is that why the nickname is Internet Exploder? Have you tried a different browser? Do you still crash? Firefox crashes at work a lot, and I can’t switch. I use a MacBook Pro there. I also use Firefox at home with Windows 10, and have no problems there. ---
**Author:** ![lion9car](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/59ef9b/32.png) [@lion9car](https://community.cartalk.com/u/lion9car)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 1:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/experiencing-repeated-browser-crashes/124063/3 "2018-08-31T13:15:40Z")
I’ve had no issues with Chrome, for what that’s worth. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 1:28am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/experiencing-repeated-browser-crashes/124063/4 "2018-09-03T01:28:57Z")
I noticed that when this browser crash happens, frequently the bottom of the web-page goes totally black. Where an advertising photo or graphic would normally appear in other words. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/experiencing-repeated-browser-crashes/124063/5 "2018-09-03T13:45:29Z")
No ads? Isn’t that a good thing? 😀 ---
**Author:** ![BillRussell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/billrussell/32/3179_2.png) [@BillRussell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/BillRussell)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 1:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/experiencing-repeated-browser-crashes/124063/6 "2018-09-03T13:47:44Z")
do you have ad-blocking software installed? that may be the problem. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 1:44am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/experiencing-repeated-browser-crashes/124063/7 "2018-09-05T01:44:48Z")
Here’s one way it fails ![Untitled](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/2X/2/22a22249465ba3cdb8c6ec017f68b9d6d7cbfc3c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![shadowfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/shadowfax/32/13026_2.png) [@shadowfax](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shadowfax)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 1:56am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/experiencing-repeated-browser-crashes/124063/8 "2018-09-05T01:56:08Z")
You should consider switching browsers. M$ is only doing security updates for IE at this point. It’s getting left behind by the modern web. Opera, Chrome, etc, would be better choices. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 2:04am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/experiencing-repeated-browser-crashes/124063/9 "2018-09-05T02:04:20Z")
My thinking is the Car Talk website pretty much has to work w/IE to be competitive. Yes, I can work around the problem; just giving a heads-up fwiw to Car Talk’s web gurus. ---
**Author:** ![cdaquila](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cdaquila/32/18089_2.png) [@cdaquila](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cdaquila)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 2:08am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/experiencing-repeated-browser-crashes/124063/10 "2018-09-05T02:08:05Z")
Thank you. Is anyone else seeing this? Based on the comments I think only George is seeing it. (I’m not doubting it’s happening to you, George…) ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 2:23am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/experiencing-repeated-browser-crashes/124063/11 "2018-09-05T02:23:41Z")
I think Shadow has the answer . MS Edge or Google Chrome . ---
**Author:** ![It\_s-Me](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/it_s-me/32/12660_2.png) [@It\_s-Me](https://community.cartalk.com/u/It_s-Me)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 2:32am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/experiencing-repeated-browser-crashes/124063/12 "2018-09-05T02:32:02Z")
> [@cdaquila](#): > > Is anyone else seeing this? I’m not seeing it, but I’m using chrome ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 2:35am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/experiencing-repeated-browser-crashes/124063/13 "2018-09-05T02:35:24Z")
George , why would any web site have to work with Internet Explorer ? It is no longer supported therefore obsolete . ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 2:45am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/experiencing-repeated-browser-crashes/124063/14 "2018-09-05T02:45:55Z")
Here’s another way it fails, when replying to a post. ![Untitled](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/2X/9/9952b6f90b86b0b2c05d16b9241951ce815000a0.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![shadowfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/shadowfax/32/13026_2.png) [@shadowfax](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shadowfax)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 3:21am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/experiencing-repeated-browser-crashes/124063/15 "2018-09-05T03:21:26Z")
> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#): > > My thinking is the Car Talk website pretty much has to work w/IE to be competitive. Respectfully, that’s kind of like saying Ford needs a hand-crank starter to stay competitive. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![BillRussell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/billrussell/32/3179_2.png) [@BillRussell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/BillRussell)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 11:28am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/experiencing-repeated-browser-crashes/124063/16 "2018-09-05T11:28:55Z")
> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#): > > the Car Talk website pretty much has to work w/IE to be competitive Apparently not. There is a long time bug with Safari and other browsers that they refuse to fix. There is a long discussion here on this. > [@Turn off the newsletter nag popups!](https://community.cartalk.com/t/turn-off-the-newsletter-nag-popups/114380): > > Please turn off the newsletter nag popups! It pops up after every screen reload even though I’m already logged in. Are you trying to drive people away from your site? (pun intended.) Clearing all cartalk cookies made no difference. Happens whether I’m logged in or not. Seems to be browser specific. Doesn’t seem to happen (as often) with Google Chrome browser. I’m using the latest version of Firefox 59.0.1. ---
**Author:** ![cdaquila](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cdaquila/32/18089_2.png) [@cdaquila](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cdaquila)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 2:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/experiencing-repeated-browser-crashes/124063/17 "2018-09-05T14:05:06Z")
Bill, respectfully, it isn’t that anyone has refused to fix the problem. Unfortunately, unless there is a silent majority, we have not been able to quantify that this is an ongoing problem that I or any of our technical people have been able to reproduce. There was a specific issue identified by another user and that was sent to our web staff, and then with the repeated popups when I sent the report along I was told that it was due to the use of Do Not Track. Please know that I do not sit on these reports, but given that this is a part-time enterprise for all involved, response times are slow and when we do need to use development resources, it has to be for issues that are documented and reproducible. If any of you are continuing to see this, please tell me, but in the past when I have reviewed the thread you cite other users (myself included) have found that the issue goes away when the do not track function is disabled. ---
**Author:** ![BillRussell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/billrussell/32/3179_2.png) [@BillRussell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/BillRussell)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/experiencing-repeated-browser-crashes/124063/18 "2018-09-05T15:07:56Z")
Perhaps “refuse” is too strong a word. The problem has not changed in the last 5 months, since I first noticed it. It is reproducible, it happens on every page. I am running safari 11.1.2 on a macintosh, system 10.12.6. But from the other comments, it is evident on several other browsers. To repeat, on every page at [cartalk.com](http://cartalk.com), none of the links are active until, after a pause of about 30 seconds, that popup appears. It has to be dismissed, then links work. Click on a link to another page, and you have to repeat the process, wait for the popup, dismiss it, then links work. Basically, [cartalk.com](http://cartalk.com) becomes almost unusable. That should be enough to give it priority. ---
**Author:** ![shadowfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/shadowfax/32/13026_2.png) [@shadowfax](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shadowfax)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/experiencing-repeated-browser-crashes/124063/19 "2018-09-05T15:58:34Z")
I just tested on the same browser, same version as you, and almost the same OS (10.13.6) and all the links worked immediately, and I got no popups. If it were a Cartalk site problem, it would be likely that I’d see the same problem as you. This suggests that there’s a problem on your end that hasn’t been discovered yet. ---
**Author:** ![eddo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/eddo/32/2594_2.png) [@eddo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/eddo)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/experiencing-repeated-browser-crashes/124063/20 "2018-09-05T16:10:17Z")
> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#): > > Here’s another way it fails, when replying to a post. > > ![Untitled](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/2X/9/9952b6f90b86b0b2c05d16b9241951ce815000a0.jpeg) I get that error on Chrome when I am idle too long and try to reply. Something logs me out. But, I am now running the site on IE 11.611, as Chrome (and my work network through Chrome,) cannot find the forums… I blame my work network and firewalls for these issues. [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/experiencing-repeated-browser-crashes/124063.md?page=2)