# Expedition capacity? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 2, 2021, 10:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/expedition-capacity/175517 "2021-03-02T22:01:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 10:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/expedition-capacity/175517/1 "2021-03-02T22:01:05Z")
13 people died when Ford Expedition carrying 25 passengers was hit by gravel truck in Cali recently. How in the heck do you get 25 adults in an expedition? ---
**Author:** ![It\_s-Me](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/it_s-me/32/12660_2.png) [@It\_s-Me](https://community.cartalk.com/u/It_s-Me)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 10:04pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/expedition-capacity/175517/2 "2021-03-02T22:04:20Z")
[Imperial County, Calif.: At Least 15 People Dead In Vehicle Crash : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2021/03/02/972891441/at-least-15-people-dead-after-crowded-suv-collides-with-truck-in-california#:~:text=.%2C%20on%20Tuesday.-,Authorities%20say%20a%20truck%20crashed%20into%20an%20SUV%20carrying%2025,killing%20at%20least%2013%20people.&text=At%20least%2013%20people%20died,collided%20with%20a%20gravel%20truck). ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 12:17am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/expedition-capacity/175517/3 "2021-03-03T00:17:37Z")
Vaseline maybe? ---
**Author:** ![circuitsmith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/circuitsmith/32/40376_2.png) [@circuitsmith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/circuitsmith)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 1:05am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/expedition-capacity/175517/4 "2021-03-03T01:05:58Z")
How many people fit in a VW Beetle? A phone booth? It’s like a giant clown car… ---
**Author:** ![wolyrobb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wolyrobb/32/45497_2.png) [@wolyrobb](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wolyrobb)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 3:29am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/expedition-capacity/175517/5 "2021-03-03T03:29:00Z")
At one of the ports on our cruise around the Hawaiian Islands in 1990 the rental car company sent a 7 seat Ford Aerostar to meet the ship. Sitting on others laps I think we had 13 including the driver for the short trip to the rental lot. Late 80’s we were coming back from the water park we had a 50mi drive with 12 of us total in a Nissan Hardbody pickup extended cab with a canopy with 8 of us in the bed (4 on each side with a lap belt running along the side of the bed from front to back) Only way to get the whole group home. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/expedition-capacity/175517/6 "2021-03-03T16:58:58Z")
The world record is 20 for cramming people into a VW Bug. [Most people crammed into an ‘old’ VW Beetle | Guinness World Records](https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/most-people-crammed-into-an-old-vw-beetle) ---
**Author:** ![Marnet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/marnet/32/41_2.png) [@Marnet](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Marnet)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/expedition-capacity/175517/7 "2021-03-03T17:10:37Z")
In college we only had twelve of us in a late 60s Lincoln Continental for a run to the best place in town for fresh donuts and hot chocolate. ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/expedition-capacity/175517/8 "2021-03-03T17:58:25Z")
Braking performance drops with 25 passengers. Ah, that darn stop sign. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 10:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/expedition-capacity/175517/9 "2021-03-03T22:48:50Z")
We had about 12 in and on a MG-B. Several of us fell off the rear fenders when the driver started moving, though. ---
**Author:** ![common-sense-answer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/common-sense-answer/32/716_2.png) [@common-sense-answer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/common-sense-answer)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 11:06pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/expedition-capacity/175517/10 "2021-03-03T23:06:16Z")
> [@Cavell](#): > > How in the heck do you get 25 adults in an expedition? Here, **I have never turned on any heat in the condo, except to test it** , but when I was in the north (cold) region during winter, people often spoke of _cord wood_. A cord of wood is a determined amount of wood measured “when ‘racked and well stowed’ - (arranged so pieces are aligned, parallel, touching and compact).” Those humans were _racked and well stowed_. I heard speculation that it could have been human trafficking. Open borders, anybody? Fore! _ **CSA** _ 🌴 🕶 🌴 ---
**Author:** ![common-sense-answer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/common-sense-answer/32/716_2.png) [@common-sense-answer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/common-sense-answer)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 11:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/expedition-capacity/175517/11 "2021-03-03T23:15:08Z")
[Authorities launch human trafficking investigation after California crash that left 13 dead | Entertainment News (entertainment–news.com)](https://entertainment--news.com/2021/03/03/authorities-launch-human-trafficking-investigation-after-california-crash-that-left-13-dead/) _“The cause of the collision was undetermined, authorities said. It also was unknown why so many people were crammed into a vehicle built to hold eight people safely. But smugglers have been known to pack people into vehicles in extremely unsafe conditions to maximize their profits.”_ _ **CSA** _ 🌴 🕶 🌴 ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2021, 12:16am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/expedition-capacity/175517/12 "2021-03-04T00:16:45Z")
We had 25 people over for Xmas one year. Thermostat hit 80f by end of night. In MN. Wonder if expedition was warm? ---
**Author:** ![keith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/keith/32/5518_2.png) [@keith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/keith)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 9:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/expedition-capacity/175517/13 "2021-03-05T21:50:13Z")
Short answer, according to one news report, the second and third row seats were removed. ---
**Author:** ![galant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/77aa72/32.png) [@galant](https://community.cartalk.com/u/galant)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 12:32am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/expedition-capacity/175517/14 "2021-03-06T00:32:21Z")
Yes, as @keith has mentioned, the 2nd and third row seats were removed. Not that hard to fit 27 in a car that large. When I was a kid, they would make us ride on the bed of a truck, standing. You can fit a lot of people there. ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 2:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/expedition-capacity/175517/15 "2021-03-06T14:24:50Z")
If they lay you in there like cordwood, doesn’t the bottom folks get crushed? Ignoring the impact from the semi? Or is it like eggs in a carton? ---
**Author:** ![ok4450](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ok4450](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ok4450)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 4:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/expedition-capacity/175517/16 "2021-03-06T16:57:40Z")
Same thing happened here in OK about 15 years ago except this involved a van with 23 people packed in; all illegals. It crashed and killed 3 if I remember the story correctly while injuring almost everyone else. A tire had blown out was given as the cause so no surprise there. Likely an aged tire, probably underinflated, and definitely overloaded, ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 2:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/expedition-capacity/175517/17 "2021-03-07T14:44:24Z")
Here in NH we just have idiots (aka Drunk) standing up in the back of a pickup falling off while relieving themselves and then getting run over by their friends in the truck behind them…not one of the vehicles stopped either.