# Engine rebuild (lifters)

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-rebuild-lifters/150930>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** pontiac\
**Created:** [October 17, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-rebuild-lifters/150930 "2019-10-17T17:35:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Lukescott73102\_158669](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85e7bf/32.png) [@Lukescott73102\_158669](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Lukescott73102_158669)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-rebuild-lifters/150930/1 "2019-10-17T17:35:22Z")

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I’m putting a new head on a 2006 Pontiac Grand Prix. When I put the push rods back in I noticed that both lifters on cylinder three are down. Is this normal or do they need replaced?

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 9:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-rebuild-lifters/150930/2 "2019-10-17T21:22:54Z")

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Down how? The pushrod socket internally collapsed? Then yes. If the lifter body itself is low, it may just be on the lowest spot on the cam. Pull one out and see if the lifter is flat and the cam lobe is damaged.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 3:04am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-rebuild-lifters/150930/3 "2019-10-18T03:04:20Z")

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This might be normal, especially if the crankshaft/camshaft is oriented so that cylinder 3 is on its compression stroke. Have you tried manually rotating the engine with a socket/ratchet to see what happens?

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**Author:** ![Lukescott73102\_158669](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85e7bf/32.png) [@Lukescott73102\_158669](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Lukescott73102_158669)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 3:12am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-rebuild-lifters/150930/4 "2019-10-18T03:12:58Z")

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No I haven’t the piston is at top dead center though

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**Author:** ![Lukescott73102\_158669](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85e7bf/32.png) [@Lukescott73102\_158669](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Lukescott73102_158669)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 3:13am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-rebuild-lifters/150930/5 "2019-10-18T03:13:51Z")

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I pulled them and visibly didn’t see any damage.

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**Author:** ![It\_s-Me](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/it_s-me/32/12660_2.png) [@It\_s-Me](https://community.cartalk.com/u/It_s-Me)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 12:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-rebuild-lifters/150930/6 "2019-10-18T12:59:31Z")

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> [@Lukescott73102\_158669](#):
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> No I haven’t the piston is at top dead center though

If it’s top dead center of the compression stroke, both valves would be full closed.
